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Old 09-19-2014, 08:31 AM
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I was under the impression California Chrome was eligible for a bonus only if he won the PA Derby because he won the KY Derby and Preakness. But according to what I've read below, his connections get an "appearance fee" just for showing up. Is this really how it works?

Courier-Journal: Bayern to challenge Chrome in Pa. Derby
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Appearance fees associated with the race, as well as a $1 million purse, made it worth shipping the dual-classic winner one more time before the Breeders’ Cup.
ESPN: Formidable or vulnerable in Penn Derby?
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Appearance fees of $100,000 for owners Steve Coburn and Perry Martin as well as Sherman no doubt also played a role in opting to run in Bensalem, Pennsylvania, instead of their home state of California.
Philly.com: California Chrome is headliner in Pa. Derby
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Chrome trainer Art Sherman will receive a $100,000 bonus for showing up because his colt won the Derby and the Preakness . Owners Steve Coburn and Perry Martin - the self-named "Dumbass Partners" - also will share a $100,000 bonus.
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Old 09-19-2014, 09:02 AM
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I was under the impression California Chrome was eligible for a bonus only if he won the PA Derby because he won the KY Derby and Preakness. But according to what I've read below, his connections get an "appearance fee" just for showing up. Is this really how it works
Yes, as soon as he leaves the starting gate, the owners and the trainer get $100,000 apiece. It's an incentive to lure the big horses. I like that the trainer gets the same fee as the owners.
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Old 09-19-2014, 09:20 AM
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Yes, as soon as he leaves the starting gate, the owners and the trainer get $100,000 apiece. It's an incentive to lure the big horses. I like that the trainer gets the same fee as the owners.
Monmouth has been paying foR Haskell for along time if i remembeR right, Baffert must have made Bode's college tuition,with the number of times he has sent horses there .(and won too).

OTOH, the CC connections have the appearance fee down, but are not likely to collect on the win end though,(as steve crist points out).
http://www.drf.com/news/crist-histor...chrome-bad-bet
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Monmouth has been paying foR Haskell for along time if i remembeR right, Baffert must have made Bode's college tuition,with the number of times he has sent horses there .(and won too).

OTOH, the CC connections have the appearance fee down, but are not likely to collect on the win end though,(as steve crist points out).
http://www.drf.com/news/crist-histor...chrome-bad-bet
So if past performances do indeed predict future events in this case, they made a really smart choice to return in a spot where they're guaranteed a check just for leaving the gate.
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Old 09-19-2014, 12:10 PM
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[quote=GenuineRisk;998840]So if past performances do indeed predict future events in this case, they made a really smart choice to return in a spot where they're guaranteed a check just for leaving the gate.[/]

Yes, a nice pay for a workout,- took a look at the card and Espinosa doesnot have another mount for the day to see what the track is like and get warmed up. He will be in the jocks room on the equecisor
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So if past performances do indeed predict future events in this case, they made a really smart choice to return in a spot where they're guaranteed a check just for leaving the gate.[/]

Yes, a nice pay for a workout,- took a look at the card and Espinosa doesnot have another mount for the day to see what the track is like and get warmed up. He will be in the jocks room on the equecisor
2 things - Espinosa doesnot have another mount all day but CC

Shermans take on it all
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbGb7...ature=youtu.be
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Yes, as soon as he leaves the starting gate, the owners and the trainer get $100,000 apiece. It's an incentive to lure the big horses. I like that the trainer gets the same fee as the owners.
So it's not really a bonus per se. The word "bonus" was leading me to believe they only would get the $$ if Chrome won. Thanks.

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