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Old 09-09-2014, 10:52 AM
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If the NFL is liable for concussions then they can most certainly be liable for domestic violence.

I can't see a team giving him a shot next year. There's not much to gain. The guy had a horrible 2013 season and he's sitting this year.

No way he'll come back and be competitive.
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Old 09-09-2014, 10:55 AM
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If the NFL is liable for concussions then they can most certainly be liable for domestic violence.

I can't see a team giving him a shot next year. There's not much to gain. The guy had a horrible 2013 season and he's sitting this year.

No way he'll come back and be competitive.
Agreed.

If it was RayRay from 3-4 years ago, then yea, teams would be lining up to give him his second chance. Fact is, he's on the sharp decline, as all running backs suffer, and isn't worth the headache/media shenanigans that would surely ensue.
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Old 09-09-2014, 11:08 AM
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Agreed.

If it was RayRay from 3-4 years ago, then yea, teams would be lining up to give him his second chance. Fact is, he's on the sharp decline, as all running backs suffer, and isn't worth the headache/media shenanigans that would surely ensue.
Sharp decline is a bit harsh IMO. He had an abysmal 2013 season, hampered by an ongoing hip injury that he played through. According to all accounts in camp, he was 100% going into this season and looked to have regained his 2012 form plus put on a little size.

I wouldn't write his skills off just yet, but can see no scenario where he would be viable on any team.

Christ, if Ricky Incognito is still enemy #1 for picking on a 6'5 320 lb football player, does anyone really think he has a prayer?
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Old 09-09-2014, 12:55 PM
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EA Sports removes Ray Rice from Madden 2015:

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/09/ray-...oved-madden-15
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Old 09-09-2014, 12:59 PM
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Apparently, there is another video making its way out that is a cleaner version and has audio. The video is not here, but I am sure it will be around soon.

http://nypost.com/2014/09/09/new-vid...ttack-on-wife/
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Old 09-09-2014, 01:58 PM
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The mismanagement of this situation from the NFL, Rice and the Ravens to some extent is stunning in this modern age. The NFL has completely mismanaged this situation which is inexcusable considering its resources and now has complete egg on its face for doing so.

It is hard to believe that Perez Hilton could obtain this tape, but the NFL could not. Even so, the NFL did not need a tape to impose the appropriate penalty and completely failed with the two game suspension. I am in no way supporting Rice's conduct, but let's face it, the indefinite suspension is troubling and nothing more than a poor attempt to save face. I don't know about the NFL rules, but to punish him after a punishment has already been given sets a dangerous precedent. No one would have picked him up anyway this year. The league has bungled the situation with the joke penalty and also bungled the situation with Josh Gordon, they need to get people in there that can properly assess and penalize these offenses after a proper investigation. Goodell should go while they restructure their personal to properly deal with these issues.

I know some believe that Rice's career is done, but I doubt it. But he is responsible for thinking he got away easy here and failing to take the right steps to help himself. He needs to complete his therapy and get out there as a spokesperson against domestic violence and try to turn a big negative in a positive direction. As hard as it is to believe, he needs to look at what Vick did to get himself back into the league and learn to do the right thing here. He will never get himself back in the league this year, but if he can make this event bring domestic violence to the forefront and help educate and prevent others from making his mistake, he will likely find himself back in the NFL. It is obvious he either did not have a crisis management team in place or the one he had needs to be fired, but he needs to get a good one quick.
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Old 09-09-2014, 02:10 PM
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Great overall take on this Nick.
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Old 09-09-2014, 06:30 PM
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The mismanagement of this situation from the NFL, Rice and the Ravens to some extent is stunning in this modern age. The NFL has completely mismanaged this situation which is inexcusable considering its resources and now has complete egg on its face for doing so.

It is hard to believe that Perez Hilton could obtain this tape, but the NFL could not. Even so, the NFL did not need a tape to impose the appropriate penalty and completely failed with the two game suspension. I am in no way supporting Rice's conduct, but let's face it, the indefinite suspension is troubling and nothing more than a poor attempt to save face. I don't know about the NFL rules, but to punish him after a punishment has already been given sets a dangerous precedent. No one would have picked him up anyway this year. The league has bungled the situation with the joke penalty and also bungled the situation with Josh Gordon, they need to get people in there that can properly assess and penalize these offenses after a proper investigation. Goodell should go while they restructure their personal to properly deal with these issues.

I know some believe that Rice's career is done, but I doubt it. But he is responsible for thinking he got away easy here and failing to take the right steps to help himself. He needs to complete his therapy and get out there as a spokesperson against domestic violence and try to turn a big negative in a positive direction. As hard as it is to believe, he needs to look at what Vick did to get himself back into the league and learn to do the right thing here. He will never get himself back in the league this year, but if he can make this event bring domestic violence to the forefront and help educate and prevent others from making his mistake, he will likely find himself back in the NFL. It is obvious he either did not have a crisis management team in place or the one he had needs to be fired, but he needs to get a good one quick.
more often than not, i disagree with colin cowherd. but he had a correct take on this mess this morning.
absolutely bungled by the nfl...and as at least one person said in all the comments during last nights games and this mornings aftermath, they thought that based on ray rice and janay's comments, that it was a mutual fight with both attacking the other. the video of course shows just how clearly one-sided it was.
they asked several people last night and today, will he ever play again...you can't say he won't. he'll rehab his image, she'll help, they'll do the appropriate interviews with the proper amount of sincere regret from him, maybe throw in anger management and other counselling....and there he'll be.
if teams will re-hire people who kill their teammates in a dui accident, players who hit pedestrians and serve a month for manslaughter, sexual assault cases draw four game suspensions, and people holler for a second chance for someone running a criminal enterprise with dog fighting( and killing), and a guy will get in the hall of fame after hiding all kinds of evidence in a double homicide....i'd say ray's chances for coming back are pretty darn good.
too bad the every day people who want a second chance after making a mistake can't get one tho.

as colin said, it's better to think it was negligence by the nfl in not getting the video, than it is to think they saw it, and did what they did (or really, didn't do) anyway.
but, stephen a smith is far from the only one who thinks women are partly responsible for getting beat up...and this is a league who chews up and spits out it's players for money, what do they care really when a woman gets hit?
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Old 09-09-2014, 06:58 PM
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Sharp decline is a bit harsh IMO. He had an abysmal 2013 season, hampered by an ongoing hip injury that he played through. According to all accounts in camp, he was 100% going into this season and looked to have regained his 2012 form plus put on a little size.

I wouldn't write his skills off just yet, but can see no scenario where he would be viable on any team.

Christ, if Ricky Incognito is still enemy #1 for picking on a 6'5 320 lb football player, does anyone really think he has a prayer?
I agree with this and thats why someone will take a shot on him this year. Almost every team in the NFL could use him. 3rd down back? He catches the ball well. He does a lot well. I do agree with Point though. He has to take control of his life and speak up about domestic abuse, the same way Vick did about dog fighting.
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Old 09-10-2014, 01:02 AM
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football players are violent people. most were the biggest baddest person in their high school, and no one you would mess with in college. surprised you don't see more of this.

Ray, you don't hit girls. Men don't do things like that.
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Old 09-10-2014, 05:11 PM
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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...09-10-16-58-36




AP Newsbreak: Source says Rice video sent to NFL

By ROB MAADDI
AP Pro Football Writer


ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. (AP) -- A law enforcement official says he sent a video of Ray Rice punching his then-fiancee to an NFL executive five months ago, while league executives have insisted they didn't see the violent images until this week.

The person played The Associated Press a 12-second voicemail from an NFL office number on April 9 confirming the video arrived. A female voice expresses thanks and says: "You're right. It's terrible."
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NFL exec says AP report doesn't change what Goodell said but "if there's a delivery sitting under someone's desk there will be consequences"

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