OSU vs. UF

#1 12-03-2006, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

ok, i think i've got you on the yeehaw thing. but many of us who pull for an sec team know that week in and week out, the sec is so tough. very contentious, and seemingly not getting the respect it should nationwide.

i think all this debate is moot. i think michigan gets their re-do. whether michigan is better than florida--i'm not sure i'd take either one over the other. after all, i feel florida could handle those on michigans schedule. i wonder what michigans record would be had they played lsu's schedule...or what would OSU's be? lsu played four top ten teams on the road. OSU can't boast that resume, can they?

Zieg and Coach and whoever, just answer me this one question honestly ok?
Lets say their is a national contest/lottery. Mr and Mrs Zeig and Mr and Mrs Coach get pulled out of the drawing.
You just won a 100,000 bet on a game between Michigan and Florida.
Which team are you gonna put your 100 grand on?

Danzig · #2 12-03-2006, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Zieg and Coach and whoever, just answer me this one question honestly ok?
Lets say their is a national contest/lottery. Mr and Mrs Zeig and Mr and Mrs Coach get pulled out of the drawing.
You just won a 100,000 bet on a game between Michigan and Florida.
Which team are you gonna put your 100 grand on?

i won 100grand? i wouldn't bet again, i'd be at the two year old in training sale.

Danzig · #3 12-03-2006, 01:51 PM

also, look at floridas opponents and how many are bowl bound. how many of THEIR opponents are bowl bound. most sec teams are playing post season.

florida won the sec. did michigan win their conference? NO! how can a team win a nat'l title if they can't even win their conference??????? obviously OSU is what kept them from the win. but it's still a fact they didn't win. they had their shot at osu and no 1, mich failed.

#4 12-03-2006, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Zieg and Coach and whoever, just answer me this one question honestly ok?
Lets say their is a national contest/lottery. Mr and Mrs Zeig and Mr and Mrs Coach get pulled out of the drawing.
You just won a 100,000 bet on a game between Michigan and Florida.
Which team are you gonna put your 100 grand on?

you don't seem to comprehend Vegas doesn't control college football

#5 12-03-2006, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BellamyRd.

you don't seem to comprehend Vegas doesn't control college football

So are you saying that Florida is a better team than Michigan right here?
And how much will you be wagering on them against Ohio St?

dr. fager · #6 12-03-2006, 03:27 PM

I'm pretty proud of Michigan for not campaigning, I think Urban looks like a 4 year old...here's some interesting stuff I would point out.

Over and over and over again they said that Florida had the toughest schedule based on opponent win percentage. A few times they said UM was #3, but the main focus was that UF had the #1 toughest schedule. They repeatedly noted that the criteria for that statement was opponent win percentage. BUT THAT'S NOT TRUE!!!

Michigan's opponents: 84-61 (0.5793)
Florida's opponents: 90-66 (0.5769)

The only way to make the numbers work the way ESPN presented them is if you take out Florida's game against a 2-9 IAA team (W. Carolina) from the calculations. But shouldn't playing a 2-9 IAA team reflect negatively on your schedule strength?

And they had one common opponent Vanderbilt.
UF won 25-19 and was outgained by Vandy 391-330
UM won 27-7 and outgained Vandy 381-171

Let Florida get their wish...I look forward to rooting for O$U

#7 12-03-2006, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

So are you saying that Florida is a better team than Michigan right here?
And how much will you be wagering on them against Ohio St?

yes FLA is better than Michigan
the AP and Coaches have just voted it as well
so I'm not way off in left field for thinking such a thing
if Michigan goes and wins, not only will the series with OSU be 1-1
but the AP will split the NC with FLA, provided they win their bowl game
the whole thing begs for a playoff~but provided the betting line
I'd be careful of betting on OSU in a game w/ Florida
Percy Harvin is just as explosive as Ginn, and will make those
big guys look like fools trying to tackle him, speed kills

dr. fager · #8 12-03-2006, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BellamyRd.

yes FLA is better than Michigan
the AP and Coaches have just voted it as well
so I'm not way off in left field for thinking such a thing
if Michigan goes and wins, not only will the series with OSU be 1-1
but the AP will split the NC with FLA, provided they win their bowl game
the whole thing begs for a playoff~but provided the betting line
I'd be careful of betting on OSU in a game w/ Florida
Percy Harvin is just as explosive as Ginn, and will make those
big guys look like fools trying to tackle him, speed kills

ahh sweet southern speed can't be stopped. The "no rematch" defense is laughable since Florida's 97 title was, uh well over a Florida St. team that beat them earlier in the year. Florida and Michigan both deserve a shot, and the problem is the system.

W 08-30-1996 55 Louisiana-Lafayette 21Gainesville, FL
W 09-07-1996 62 Georgia Southern 14Gainesville, FL
W 09-21-1996 35 Tennessee 29 Knoxville, TN
W 09-28-1996 65 Kentucky 0 Gainesville, FL
W 10-05-1996 42 Arkansas7 Fayetteville, AR
W 10-12-1996 56 Louisiana St. 13 Gainesville, FL
W 10-19-1996 51 Auburn (AL) 10 Gainesville, FL
W 11-02-1996 47 Georgia 7 Jacksonville, FL
W 11-09-1996 28 Vanderbilt (TN) 21 Nashville, TN
W 11-16-199652 South Carolina 25 Gainesville, FL
L 11-30-1996 21 Florida St. 24 Tallahassee, FL
W 12-07-1996 45 Alabama 30 SEC Championship Game
W 01-02-1997 52 Florida St.20 Sugar Bowl

#9 12-03-2006, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dr. fager

ahh sweet southern speed can't be stopped. The "no rematch" defense is laughable since Florida's 97 title was, uh well over a Florida St. team that beat them earlier in the year. Florida and Michigan both deserve a shot, and the problem is the system.

W 08-30-1996 55 Louisiana-Lafayette 21Gainesville, FL
W 09-07-1996 62 Georgia Southern 14Gainesville, FL
W 09-21-1996 35 Tennessee 29 Knoxville, TN
W 09-28-1996 65 Kentucky 0 Gainesville, FL
W 10-05-1996 42 Arkansas7 Fayetteville, AR
W 10-12-1996 56 Louisiana St. 13 Gainesville, FL
W 10-19-1996 51 Auburn (AL) 10 Gainesville, FL
W 11-02-1996 47 Georgia 7 Jacksonville, FL
W 11-09-1996 28 Vanderbilt (TN) 21 Nashville, TN
W 11-16-199652 South Carolina 25 Gainesville, FL
L 11-30-1996 21 Florida St. 24 Tallahassee, FL
W 12-07-1996 45 Alabama 30 SEC Championship Game
W 01-02-1997 52 Florida St.20 Sugar Bowl

but it was by 3 points on the road!
what the pro-rematchers are saying
and this was 10 years ago before the "BCS" was in place
just goes to show the new system hasn't made things any better/clearer
btw, I was not for this 1997 rematch either
if Boise State wins and Ohio State loses can we make them #1?

dr. fager · #10 12-03-2006, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BellamyRd.

but it was by 3 points on the road!
what the pro-rematchers are saying
and this was 10 years ago before the "BCS" was in place
just goes to show the new system hasn't made things any better/clearer
btw, I was not for this 1997 rematch either
if Boise State wins and Ohio State loses can we make them #1?

Wasn't UM's loss 3 points on the road too? I'm not really arguing, I'm fine with Florida going but you're going to have to do better than that...LOL

They could have resolved this, they added the game and should have made it +1 system instead of what they did to appease the mid-majors...oh well.

On a lighter note, if UM and SC go to the Rose, at least their cheerleader's will be pulling for my squad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brcl8U0jHto&eurl=

#11 12-03-2006, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Porter

Good morning ALL,

This is a strange thread. I thought the Championship game was OSU/USC.

Did I miss something?

Yeah you missed UCLA saving USC from an alltime beating from OSU.
I'm kinda wondering how the "USC deserves the bid" guys are now, anyone seen them?
Imagine that, guys telling us that a team who lost to Oregon St shoulda been in the championship over Mich and Florida?
That game woulda been extremely ugly.

Nascar1966 · #12 12-03-2006, 10:42 AM

It isn't hard to figure it out Ohio State should play Florida for the championship. Florida played the toughest schedule of the year. They come from where I feel is the best conference in all of college football. At least for thier non conference/scrimmage games they don't play Army, Navy, and Air Force. Take note of that last one all you Notre Dame fans. Again it proves why there is a need for some sort of playoff system. I am sure you will have a team that is deserving a playoff spot not getting in and raising hell about it. While Michigan would be a very deserving oppenent for Ohio State, they had thier chance a few weeks ago. If they had played earlier in the year then you could maybe a case for a rematch.

skippy3481 · #13 12-03-2006, 02:09 PM

Florida's schedule is only if you think the sec was a tough conference this year. I think it was a below average year for them. They just took turns beating the hell out of each other. Ill take the top 3 in the big ten over the top 3 in the sec any day.