RIP Joan Rivers

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by geeker2

It's funny because in later years (ok yes on Howard Stern) she said she hated Johnny with a passion.

But god she was funny ...rip...maybe not a bad way to go at 81.

Well, he totally cut her dead after she, god forbid, left to go do her own show. More recently, though, she talked about owing her whole career to him. She also had this to say about Neil Simon:

"“Do you want to hear something awful?” Joan asks. “When Edgar had just killed himself, I couldn't get work and they were looking for someone for Broadway Bound. Neil Simon said ‘don't bring her in.' But I came in on my own money, read for it and they gave the part to me right on the spot. That turned my life around. From that, I got my talk show and on and on. My whole life I said “'Neil Simon changed my life.' But when I saw him again years later he said, ‘You were a Kate?'”

There are comedians who have a real talent for sounding like they're just rambling through this and that until they land on a punchline, but in fact every stutter is practiced. She was brilliant at it. (Tommy Smothers is another) Barbara Walters said she was the only guest on The View who gave them questions to ask her ahead of time, so she could land a joke.

She did a really interesting interview a few years ago, talking about being a female comedian early on:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...-carson-398088

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by geeker2

It's funny because in later years (ok yes on Howard Stern) she said she hated Johnny with a passion.

But god she was funny ...rip...maybe not a bad way to go at 81.

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Well, he totally cut her dead after she, god forbid, left to go do her own show. More recently, though, she talked about owing her whole career to him. She also had this to say about Neil Simon:

"“Do you want to hear something awful?” Joan asks. “When Edgar had just killed himself, I couldn't get work and they were looking for someone for Broadway Bound. Neil Simon said ‘don't bring her in.' But I came in on my own money, read for it and they gave the part to me right on the spot. That turned my life around. From that, I got my talk show and on and on. My whole life I said “'Neil Simon changed my life.' But when I saw him again years later he said, ‘You were a Kate?'”

There are comedians who have a real talent for sounding like they're just rambling through this and that until they land on a punchline, but in fact every stutter is practiced. She was brilliant at it. (Tommy Smothers is another) Barbara Walters said she was the only guest on The View who gave them questions to ask her ahead of time, so she could land a joke.

She did a really interesting interview a few years ago, talking about being a female comedian early on:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...-carson-398088

It was when the 1st rumors of Carson retiring that some NBC Exec showed Joan some pages listing potential replacements. They were all men. At the bottom of the page, the Exec wrote, "Joan, you have no future at NBC."
Then Rosenberg helped her sign a deal with Fox before she called Carson.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

It was when the 1st rumors of Carson retiring that some NBC Exec showed Joan some pages listing potential replacements. They were all men. At the bottom of the page, the Exec wrote, "Joan, you have no future at NBC."
Then Rosenberg helped her sign a deal with Fox before she called Carson.

ABC showed old interview of her with Barbara Wawa..Joan said after she called Carson to tell him about her new show he never spoke to her again!...RIP funny lady..

[GenuineRisk]

Vulture ran a great piece about her from 2010:

http://www.vulture.com/2014/09/joan-...BUCMTGB88FxAr9

Really good read, and now I really want to see the documentary about her.

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by bigrun

ABC showed old interview of her with Barbara Wawa..Joan said after she called Carson to tell him about her new show he never spoke to her again!...RIP funny lady..

What was the point of this?

To say what I said was wrong on what led Carson to not ever to speak to Joan again Wrong?

I guess the interview that I saw with Joan (done in 2012) in her own words was wrong

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

What was the point of this?

To say what I said was wrong on what led Carson to not ever to speak to Joan again Wrong?

I guess the interview that I saw with Joan (done in 2012) in her own words was wrong

Not at all, just mentioning a piece from the eve news..no offense intended

[bigrun]

[dellinger63]

I last saw her in July. A friend and I met her for lunch at a restaurant she’d chosen in Los Angeles. It was full of tourists. Everyone at the tables recognized her and called out. She felt she owed her fans everything and never ignored or patronized an admirer. She smiled through every picture with every stranger. She was nice—she asked about their families, where they were from, how they liked it here. They absolutely knew she would treat them well and she absolutely did.

The only people who didn’t recognize Joan were the people who ran the restaurant, who said they didn’t have her reservation and asked us to wait in the bar, where waiters bumped into us as they bustled by. Joan didn’t like that, gave them 10 minutes to get their act together, and when they didn’t she left. But she didn’t just leave. She stood outside on the sidewalk, and as cars full of people went by with people calling out, “Joan! We love you!” she would yell back, “Thank you but don’t go to this restaurant, they’re rude! Boycott this restaurant!” My friend said, “Joan, stop it, you’re going to wind up on TMZ.”

“I don’t care,” she said. She felt she was doing a public service.

We went to a restaurant down the street, where when she walked in they almost bowed.

She wouldn’t let a friend pay a bill, ever. She tipped like a woman who used to live on tips. She was hilarious that day on the subject of Barack and Michelle Obama, whom she did not like. (I almost didn’t write that but decided if Joan were here she’d say, “Say I didn’t like Obama!”)

She was a Republican, always a surprising thing in show business, and in a New Yorker, but she was one because, as she would tell you, she worked hard, made her money with great effort, and didn’t feel her profits should be unduly taxed. She once said in an interview that if you have 19 children she will pay for the first four but no more. Mostly she just couldn’t tolerate cant and didn’t respond well to political manipulation. She believed in a strong defense because she was a grown-up and understood the world to be a tough house. She loved Margaret Thatcher, who said what Joan believed: The facts of life are conservative. She didn’t do a lot of politics in her shows—politics divides an audience—but she thought a lot about it and talked about it. She was socially liberal in the sense she wanted everyone to find as many available paths to happiness as possible.

http://blogs.wsj.com/peggynoonan/201...e-entertainer/