8/23-24 (DMR): DMR H. (G2); PacClassic (G1), O'Brien, Mile (G2's)

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Which is a valid explanation. Shared Belief is very good, but let's not pretend that race wasn't served up to him on a silver platter.

I don't disagree with it being gift wrapped but he won the way he should have...or maybe even better in that it was a virtual hand ride. No?

[Indian Charlie]

It was his freaking sixth lifetime start, going up against much more seasoned horses. Gift wrapped???

His first two starts this year were freaking exhibition races no less.

Game on dude had zero excuses. He opened up a big lead having it his own way, and the winner blew by him like it was nothing.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

It was his freaking sixth lifetime start, going up against much more seasoned horses. Gift wrapped???

His first two starts this year were freaking exhibition races no less.

Game on dude had zero excuses. He opened up a big lead having it his own way, and the winner blew by him like it was nothing.

His own way?? Pace was very fast. Only 1 horse ran on and it was the winner who tripped out.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

It was his freaking sixth lifetime start, going up against much more seasoned horses. Gift wrapped???

His first two starts this year were freaking exhibition races no less.

Game on dude had zero excuses. He opened up a big lead having it his own way, and the winner blew by him like it was nothing.

Saying that a horse who dueled through :22 and :45 splits going 1 1/4 miles "had zero excuses" for losing and "had it his own way" shows a pretty staggering misunderstanding of race dynamics. I'm just gonna assume it's the noise of the Shared Belief pom-poms blocking all rational thought in this case.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Saying that a horse who dueled through :22 and :45 splits going 1 1/4 miles "had zero excuses" for losing and "had it his own way" shows a pretty staggering misunderstanding of race dynamics. I'm just gonna assume it's the noise of the Shared Belief pom-poms blocking all rational thought in this case.

It was a slight overstatement. The reality is though that God is a horse that is much better running loose and he was able to do just that. Would you have preferred that he had gone 48.4 fighting his jock?

All in all, he ended up running a pretty good race. God that is.

I doubt had the race been run any differently, that he'd have finished any closer than he did

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

It was a slight overstatement. The reality is though that God is a horse that is much better running loose and he was able to do just that. Would you have preferred that he had gone 48.4 fighting his jock?

All in all, he ended up running a pretty good race. God that is.

I doubt had the race been run any differently, that he'd have finished any closer than he did

Stop bro, just stop. So if GOD went 47.3 w/out that long shot pressing him, he doesn't draw away turning for home??
I don’t buy it.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Stop bro, just stop. So if GOD went 47.3 w/out that long shot pressing him, he doesn't draw away turning for home??
I don’t buy it.

well, no. Shared Belief was still in the race. If the long shot wasn't in the race, then Shared Belief likely sits 5 or 6 lengths closer to GOD if he goes 47.3 and GOD is not drawing away from Shared Belief because Shared Belief was actually in that race. He's a better horse right now.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

well, no. Shared Belief was still in the race. If the long shot wasn't in the race, then Shared Belief likely sits 5 or 6 lengths closer to GOD if he goes 47.3 and GOD is not drawing away from Shared Belief because Shared Belief was actually in that race. He's a better horse right now.

It really is that simple. He's just a better horse right now. They go slower, he sits closer. Faster, he hangs back. This isn't some one pace grinder with no turn of foot. He makes his own trip.

[robfla]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Stop bro, just stop. So if GOD went 47.3 w/out that long shot pressing him, he doesn't draw away turning for home??
I don’t buy it.

sometimes horses that seem to always have "perfect trips" make their trips perfect by having both good early speed and a burst of speed when asked. IMO, Shared Belief was beating Game on Dude yesterday in any scenario. No one seems to have mentioned Shared Belief's awkward start where he brushed the gate... 2:00.small change for 1 1/4 miles on Polytrack is "racehorse" time.