Police state reached

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

There was a study done recently that an African American is shot dead by a member of law enforcement or person otherwise protected by the government every 28 hours. That's almost one a day.

That's an astonishing fact.

I courious what the statistic would reflect in cities where neighborhoods comprised entirely of white people, almost all on some sort of welfare, where 74% of the gun related shootings are committed by white gang bangers would be - do you have those facts by any chance?

Oh wait...I see now.....so....if that doesn't exist, it would be logical to assume that....never mind... keep on keepin' on with this nonsense.

What's next? Are we going to get lectured on how it's all the white people's fault that there are bad neighborhoods comprised entirely of non-whites?

Keep banging this inane, self-loathing drum. It's ridiculous, especially when commented on from a perfectly safe and hypocritical distance. When did your family leave the 'ole neighborhood?

If you really want to make a difference instead of making up an excuse to blame "white people", why don't you move to the middle of Ferguson and set an example?

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Keep banging this inane, self-loathing drum. It's ridiculous, especially when commented on from a perfectly safe and hypocritical distance. When did your family leave the 'ole neighborhood?

If you really want to make a difference instead of making up an excuse to blame "white people", why don't you move to the middle of Ferguson and set an example?

Here's the 2010 Census breakdown of the racial demographics of my neighborhood:

White: 18%
Black: 49%
Hispanic: 17%
Asian: 10%
Other: 5%

But thanks for making a blind, erroneous assumption about me. You know, like the Ferguson PD does about the citizens they're supposed to be protecting and serving.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Here's the 2010 Census breakdown of the racial demographics of my neighborhood:

White: 18%
Black: 49%
Hispanic: 17%
Asian: 10%
Other: 5%

But thanks for making a blind, erroneous assumption about me. You know, like the Ferguson PD does about the citizens they're supposed to be protecting and serving.

Very good for you! You get to live in Utopia. I'd have to guess that you don't have much of a problem with crime, drugs, gangs, etc. either, and everyone is a responsible, upstanding citizen.

My Grandmother lived in a very, very similar neighborhood. 40 years ago.

About 10 years later (mid-80's), after everyone else had fled and her house had been broken into for the 3rd time in less than six months, she received a personal visit from the chief of police who told her to get the hell out before she was killed.

I'm sure that her stubbornness to not draw conclusions about her new neighbors based on their skin color was commendable by some, but not realistic.

So spare me this nonsense. Please. Put up or shut up. Move to a neighborhood that is 95%+ non-white and tell us again how unfair it is that everyone that gets arrested there is non-white. Or sit in your ivory tower and do it. It really makes no difference. It's appalling hypocritical regardless.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Very good for you! You get to live in Utopia. I'd have to guess that you don't have much of a problem with crime, drugs, gangs, etc. either, and everyone is a responsible, upstanding citizen.

My Grandmother lived in a very, very similar neighborhood. 40 years ago.

About 10 years later (mid-80's), after everyone else had fled and her house had been broken into for the 3rd time in less than six months, she received a personal visit from the chief of police who told her to get the hell out before she was killed.

I'm sure that her stubbornness to not draw conclusions about her new neighbors based on their skin color was commendable by some, but not realistic.

So spare me this nonsense. Please. Put up or shut up. Move to a neighborhood that is 95%+ non-white and tell us again how unfair it is that everyone that gets arrested there is non-white. Or sit in your ivory tower and do it. It really makes no difference. It's appalling hypocritical regardless.

One of the interesting things the Pew Foundation found out was that whites who live with black neighbors are much more likely to say that the police treat black Americans unfairly than whites who live in primarily white neighborhoods. Probably because we actually see it happen. I have.

Here's an excerpt from the report about execution of black citizens by police:

"5. Not Armed: Most of the people executed were not armed. The police and the corporate media often justify fatal shooting of “suspects” by loudly announcing that they were armed. Yet, it is legal to carry guns—even unregistered guns-- in most states. We have tabulated the number of people killed by police who were armed, not because we agree with the authorities that weapons’ possession is in-itself a criminal activity—especially on the part of young Black men. Rather, we present this data only to demonstrate how flimsy police justification often is.

136 (or 44% of 313) had no weapon at all at the time they were executed.

83 (or 27% of 313) allegedly possessed a gun. It has been demonstrated that police reports of gun possession frequently turn out to be false. Police are infamous for planting weapons or declaring that a cell phone, wallet or other harmless object is a gun. We, therefore, coded “armed status” as “alleged” if there was no corroboration that a suspect was indeed armed. Another 6
people or 2% were alleged to possess knives or other cutting tools.

62 (20% of the 313) Did, in fact, possess guns—and that total includes at least 3 toy or replica guns. Another 23 (7%) had verified knives or cutting implements.

It is also important to keep in mind that after reading through the details of 313 killings, only 42 of them (13%) involved a “suspect” definitely or allegedly shooting—which would make the gun possession illegal."

http://mxgm.org/operation-ghetto-sto...-black-people/

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

One of the interesting things the Pew Foundation found out was that whites who live with black neighbors are much more likely to say that the police treat black Americans unfairly than whites who live in primarily white neighborhoods. Probably because we actually see it happen. I have.

Here's an excerpt from the report about execution of black citizens by police:

"5. Not Armed: Most of the people executed were not armed. The police and the corporate media often justify fatal shooting of “suspects” by loudly announcing that they were armed. Yet, it is legal to carry guns—even unregistered guns-- in most states. We have tabulated the number of people killed by police who were armed, not because we agree with the authorities that weapons’ possession is in-itself a criminal activity—especially on the part of young Black men. Rather, we present this data only to demonstrate how flimsy police justification often is.

136 (or 44% of 313) had no weapon at all at the time they were executed.

83 (or 27% of 313) allegedly possessed a gun. It has been demonstrated that police reports of gun possession frequently turn out to be false. Police are infamous for planting weapons or declaring that a cell phone, wallet or other harmless object is a gun. We, therefore, coded “armed status” as “alleged” if there was no corroboration that a suspect was indeed armed. Another 6
people or 2% were alleged to possess knives or other cutting tools.

62 (20% of the 313) Did, in fact, possess guns—and that total includes at least 3 toy or replica guns. Another 23 (7%) had verified knives or cutting implements.

It is also important to keep in mind that after reading through the details of 313 killings, only 42 of them (13%) involved a “suspect” definitely or allegedly shooting—which would make the gun possession illegal."

http://mxgm.org/operation-ghetto-sto...-black-people/

We will not turn back “Operation Desert Storm” and the military machine that aims to keep Black and other oppressed people subordinate and contained, until we defeat and dismantle the systems of colonialism, national oppression, white supremacy, capitalism and imperialism. It is imperative that we build a broad and dynamic mass movement capable of transforming the system and building a new social order.

That's some pretty wild reading. I only got through a handful of the first killings of 2012. Following the links

1/1/12 Michael Smith: Armed? "allegedly" Excessive force used? Yes.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...marquette-park

1/9/12 Sean Egana: Armed? Yes. Excessive force used? TBD. (Really??)
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/...arjacking.html

1/12/12 Donald Johnson: Armed? Yes. Excessive force used? No.
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/...olice_aft.html
Comment: The six NOPD involved in the shooting were on desk duty for more than a month until investigation found the killing "justifiable."

All those killed are grouped together beneath the heading:
Black People Executed without Trial by Police, Security Guards and Vigilantes
and their names, including those above are listed in the 2012 Memorial Pages with the inscription,
"We will never forget. May they rest in power."