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Old 12-01-2006, 03:44 PM
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Anyone who saw this horse's first few races knows that without being pushed into sumbmision, he could have been ANYTHING.
His debut at CD was as fine a debut as you will ever see, and at saratoga in the Special that he won, he banged into the gate real hard coming out and somehow got up anyway.
Of all the horses D Wayne pushed into the ground, I bet if you asked him if he could have one "do over", who would it be, he'd say Jump Start.
I think you are absolutely right about Jump Start and D. Wayne. I had followed the horse from his debut and your comments brought back memories for me. The coach has had so much talent in his barn. It is too bad that he never knew when to lighten up on them. Boston Harbor was a big letdown for me, among others. He had so much promise. The list goes on and on, with Jump Start at the top.
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Old 12-01-2006, 05:40 PM
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and let me add my usual worthless 2 cents........ balletto, your avatar is a beautiful thing
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Old 12-01-2006, 05:56 PM
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my point on JS is that one needs to be cautious in the breeding. i suppose that goes for any breeding. 2 yrs ago i recommended JS to a friend for her mare. of course i was ignored.
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Old 12-01-2006, 06:12 PM
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my point on JS is that one needs to be cautious in the breeding. i suppose that goes for any breeding. 2 yrs ago i recommended JS to a friend for her mare. of course i was ignored.
I think thats where you are missing out on some racing facts.
Calling Jump Start unsound would be like calling a football player unsound whose caoch made him play with a fractured ankle that turned into a broken one.
He started early, and showed precocity that many Ap Indy's don't show.
Theres a difference between an unsound horse and one who gets run into the ground by its trainer.
Do you recall his campaign?
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Old 12-01-2006, 06:32 PM
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i recall he was one of the top 2 yr olds...
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Old 12-01-2006, 06:38 PM
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i recall he was one of the top 2 yr olds...
He also had a 1ster win yesterday in a MSW at Laurel.
Thats 19 winners.
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Old 12-01-2006, 06:41 PM
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I think thats where you are missing out on some racing facts.
Calling Jump Start unsound would be like calling a football player unsound whose caoch made him play with a fractured ankle that turned into a broken one.
He started early, and showed precocity that many Ap Indy's don't show.
Theres a difference between an unsound horse and one who gets run into the ground by its trainer.
Do you recall his campaign?
big difference between a horse suffering a catastrophic injury, and unsoundness. easy goer was unsound, as was ghostzapper. toccet was run into the ground, wasn't necessarily unsound. his story imo comes close to jump starts.
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Old 12-01-2006, 07:51 PM
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Its funny, there's a topic going on another forum about how race records can be real misleading. One lady stands an A.P. Indy son in a regional market and it only shows one start... instant reaction is yet another son of a top stallion that was so unsound he couldnt get out of his first start without injury... in reality, it was a bandage bow.

I like to think it was a misguided campaign that ended his career, but to play Devil's Advocate, his female family has a lot of unsoundness issues. Just saying...
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Old 12-01-2006, 09:42 PM
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Its funny, there's a topic going on another forum about how race records can be real misleading.
Sure they were all champions until they stepped in a hole, ran into a fence, kicked a wall, bandaged bowed, etc.......
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