NBA Off season

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11...ts-vegas-books

They are taking a ton of $$$ to win it all in Vegas. I agree that those 3 teams from the West would be tough, but they would likely steamroll the East. And with Lebron and Irving and some athleticism inside I think anything could happen in a 7 game series.

You always overrate Cleveland.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You always overrate Cleveland.

Chuck if you were Lebron where would you go right now?
I would go to Cleveland and not look back. At least all the youth makes them a wild card. Miami is what it is, and unless Wade somehow got healthy they would lose in the Finals again. Thats if they even get by Indiana again.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Chuck if you were Lebron where would you go right now?
I would go to Cleveland and not look back. At least all the youth makes them a wild card. Miami is what it is, and unless Wade somehow got healthy they would lose in the Finals again. Thats if they even get by Indiana again.

I wouldn't go to Cleveland now. Best to go somewhere else for a few years or stay where he is and see how Wiggins and the others develop. Then ride in later in his career and be the guy who puts them over the top.

[Pants II]

It will be a miracle if LeBron has another 3 seasons of high-level play.

not many have continued to be truly dominant in their thirties.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Pants II

It will be a miracle if LeBron has another 3 seasons of high-level play.

not many have continued to be truly dominant in their thirties.

He is aging well. He is physical specimen who has never been injured. Durant or anyone else has 4-5 years before they take over as the best. How many guys are great at 20 but still improve every single year?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

He is aging well. He is physical specimen who has never been injured. Durant or anyone else has 4-5 years before they take over as the best. How many guys are great at 20 but still improve every single year?

Players in their 20's shouldn't be aging anything but well.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Players in their 20's shouldn't be aging anything but well.

I think you know what I mean. And he has played more basketball then anyone the last 10 years. He shows no signs at all of slowing down or losing a step. Playoffs every year, Olympics, never ever injured. Because I respect you're opinion, how much longer do you think he is the best player in the world? I say its at least 4 maybe 5 years.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I wouldn't go to Cleveland now. Best to go somewhere else for a few years or stay where he is and see how Wiggins and the others develop. Then ride in later in his career and be the guy who puts them over the top.

It's his only option. Of course I may be biased. The Miami thing has run it's course and served his purpose. He got two titles (one quite lucky but two nonetheless). He can right the perceived wrong in Cleveland (he's a bit of an egomaniac that way) and if he gets only one title they will build statue after statue for him! Kobe and Jordan only won titles on one team (of course they only played for one!). Plus Johnny f***n Football needs a chaperone. It's just a win, win, win, win, win, win all around for James to go back to Cleveland right now, not later!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

It's his only option. Of course I may be biased. The Miami thing has run it's course and served his purpose. He got two titles (one quite lucky but two nonetheless). He can right the perceived wrong in Cleveland (he's a bit of an egomaniac that way) and if he gets only one title they will build statue after statue for him! Kobe and Jordan only won titles on one team (of course they only played for one!). Plus Johnny f***n Football needs a chaperone. It's just a win, win, win, win, win, win all around for James to go back to Cleveland right now, not later!

Why would you say its his only option? Virtually every team would make the moves needed to get him. He essentially can choose his team. Everyone knows that and if he chooses hometown and doesnt win Skip Bayless and the rest of the idiots will blast him for "settling" for going home

So "righting a perceived wrong" makes one an egomanic?

Kobe and Jordan didnt get drafted by Cleveland. Be interesting to see how history would be written if they were drafted by an inept franchise like Cleveland.

Returning to Cleveland is fraught with issues for him. 1st of all he will be expected to deliver a championship there and that wont be easy because despite the nonsense about how great Clevelands young players are, NBA titles arent won with young talent. Clevelands most accurate outside shooter currently is their center. Even the battered Cleveland fans arent going to be happy with 2nd round eliminations or getting swept by San Antonio in the Finals. You know who will get the blame.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Why would you say its his only option? Virtually every team would make the moves needed to get him. He essentially can choose his team. Everyone knows that and if he chooses hometown and doesnt win Skip Bayless and the rest of the idiots will blast him for "settling" for going home

So "righting a perceived wrong" makes one an egomanic?

Kobe and Jordan didnt get drafted by Cleveland. Be interesting to see how history would be written if they were drafted by an inept franchise like Cleveland.

Returning to Cleveland is fraught with issues for him. 1st of all he will be expected to deliver a championship there and that wont be easy because despite the nonsense about how great Clevelands young players are, NBA titles arent won with young talent. Clevelands most accurate outside shooter currently is their center. Even the battered Cleveland fans arent going to be happy with 2nd round eliminations or getting swept by San Antonio in the Finals. You know who will get the blame.

I'm a huge Cleveland fan, always have been, "only option" was sarcasm

most all great athletes are "egomaniacs"....it has nothing to do with my stating the "righting a perceived wrong".

I have long stated Michael Jordan couldn't carry LeBron's jock strap back when I posted more frequently here. Most don't like stuff like that I say. You can at least put Jordan in the conversation with LeBron. Kobe...ha ha ha. First time Kobe got a roster as bad as LeBron got in Cleveland he was demanding a trade. People tend to forget that conveniently. LeBron is the best to ever play the game. Period, end of story. (perhaps those last two sentences are meant to entice people, but maybe not! and the last sentence really isn't a sentence anyway)

Spencer Hawes signed with the Clippers. I love Varejao, but he's not an accurate outside shooter!! I am a battered Cleveland fan. I would be ecstatic with a finals loss...seriously I would. Yes they are just young. Irving is a very, very good offensive player....that's it, he is a non-entity on defense. Wiggins has zero NBA games. I'm thinking Waiters will be trade bait to perhaps entice......Love??? Thompson is an average player, Bennett didn't have quite a good NBA rookie campaign.

all your points are quite legitimate however, I agree. As a battered fan, logic be damned!!

[horseofcourse]

And believe me, I know this "is he returning to Cleveland" thing is 100 percent manufactured ESPN crap. The Miami thing has run it's course, but so has the LeBron is a villain thing for ESPN....they need to recreate it as they will play the he is shunning Cleveland again thing to the max. He's a free agent....so of course his agent is visiting a variety of cities. Bosh will take the max contract in Houston and they will re-constitute a new big 3 in Miami. that's all it is. His meeting with Riley is to go over who the new 3rd guy will be. Here's what Cleveland said they'll do....Riley....."here's what we're going to do".....LeBron...."I am keeping my talent in south beach". the end.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

I'm a huge Cleveland fan, always have been, "only option" was sarcasm

most all great athletes are "egomaniacs"....it has nothing to do with my stating the "righting a perceived wrong".

I have long stated Michael Jordan couldn't carry LeBron's jock strap back when I posted more frequently here. Most don't like stuff like that I say. You can at least put Jordan in the conversation with LeBron. Kobe...ha ha ha. First time Kobe got a roster as bad as LeBron got in Cleveland he was demanding a trade. People tend to forget that conveniently. LeBron is the best to ever play the game. Period, end of story. (perhaps those last two sentences are meant to entice people, but maybe not! and the last sentence really isn't a sentence anyway)

Spencer Hawes signed with the Clippers. I love Varejao, but he's not an accurate outside shooter!! I am a battered Cleveland fan. I would be ecstatic with a finals loss...seriously I would. Yes they are just young. Irving is a very, very good offensive player....that's it, he is a non-entity on defense. Wiggins has zero NBA games. I'm thinking Waiters will be trade bait to perhaps entice......Love??? Thompson is an average player, Bennett didn't have quite a good NBA rookie campaign.

all your points are quite legitimate however, I agree. As a battered fan, logic be damned!!

Sorry I missed the sarcasm!