Beyer: Espinoza's ride could have cost Chrome Crown

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Has Violette or Ortiz commented on Samraat's ride? Was the horse off, or did they decide that on that particular day he'd be better off as a deep closer rather than the projected lone speed where he could have controlled the pace?

Easy to say now that CC should have been closer, but realistically, no one knows how the break and subsequent injury (however superficial it may or may not be) affected Espinoza's ability to put the horse in a more opportune position.

It would be refreshing to see DRF focus on the tangibles that affected the outcome rather than inane speculation.

yeah, if anyone should be question rides in that race, people should definitely take a look at Ortiz. No urgency what so ever to get near the lead, makes what i thought was a huge move going into the stretch, gets to the top of the lane and he nose dives the horse to the rail while entering the stretch 6 wide. I'm not saying he was winning, but after a big move why not continue outside

-bt-

[Aly-Sheba]

How many races has Beyer and Moss rode in, compared to Bailey? I will take Bailey's opinion in that spot. The ride was fine, he was tired from the 3 races and got beat less then 2 lengths. I thought he ran great in defeat!!

[Frost King]

If you watch his ride in the 3rd, it was the ride he would have given California Chrome. He was two wide the whole trip around and the horse faded. That could have scared him from doing the same thing with CC.

[richard burch]

he flattened out. whether he was wide, inside, back , front...he still would have done it....too much for him. espinoza did a good job.


what i saw was what appeared to be a very deep track with alot of kick back. horses spinning their hooves.

[Vegaskid]

Originally Posted by richard burch

he flattened out. whether he was wide, inside, back , front...he still would have done it....too much for him. espinoza did a good job.


what i saw was what appeared to be a very deep track with alot of kick back. horses spinning their hooves.

I agree. They made sure to play the track deep.

This horse's problem is breaking from the gate. In this race he got bumped hard from the outside. Its not about making the front for him just getting clean out and position. I believe if he broke out clean its a completely different finish for him.

[Pants II]

Bad luck at the break.

That doesn't happen it's arguably a different outcome.

If he's healthy...good luck to those who doubt him in the fall.

[ajphilly]

Originally Posted by -BT-

yeah, if anyone should be question rides in that race, people should definitely take a look at Ortiz. No urgency what so ever to get near the lead, makes what i thought was a huge move going into the stretch, gets to the top of the lane and he nose dives the horse to the rail while entering the stretch 6 wide. I'm not saying he was winning, but after a big move why not continue outside

-bt-

I figured something had gone wrong with the horse when he wasn't near the front during the race. I was shocked to see that he finished only about 4-5 lengths back of Tonalist. Watching the replay, Ortiz doesn't seem to ask the horse at all while everyone one else goes right by. I agree that he may not have won, but he gave the horse no chance. By far the most questionable ride in the race IMO.