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Old 05-30-2014, 10:39 AM
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Ah, thank you for the clarification. I don't disagree with this. Outsized defense spending (which does little other than make those with government contracts wealthy) and frankly, too low of taxes on the wealthy over the past 35 years have indeed screwed the pooch. I don't think it's paranoid at all to think it will end in violence. There's a reason kids in school don't learn much about the history of the labor movement in this nation- it's because most of it through the 1930s was written in blood. We didn't learn anything the first time around, clearly.
the defense spending is simply outrageous in this country.
when paul ryan came out with his latest 'cut welfare and add that money to defense' i had such a look on my face, some people asked me if i was ok! i was at the gym at the time they were showing it, and i guess i looked simply furious.
how many tanks we have parked out in the desert in storage right now? that f-35 program, what's the tag on that up to at this point?
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Old 05-30-2014, 10:54 AM
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the defense spending is simply outrageous in this country.
when paul ryan came out with his latest 'cut welfare and add that money to defense' i had such a look on my face, some people asked me if i was ok! i was at the gym at the time they were showing it, and i guess i looked simply furious.
how many tanks we have parked out in the desert in storage right now? that f-35 program, what's the tag on that up to at this point?
And now the secretary of Veteran Affairs is out over the VA scandal, and no one is talking about the real scandal- that Congress is NOT FUNDING THE VA ADEQUATELY. How hard is this? As someone on balloon-juice put it, the next nominee's response to every question asked during his nomination hearing should be, "Where's the money, Senator?"

Billions for shiny new machines to send young men and women out to fight in, no money for those men and women when they have the audacity to come home wounded instead of dead.
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Old 05-30-2014, 11:08 AM
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And now the secretary of Veteran Affairs is out over the VA scandal, and no one is talking about the real scandal- that Congress is NOT FUNDING THE VA ADEQUATELY. How hard is this? As someone on balloon-juice put it, the next nominee's response to every question asked during his nomination hearing should be, "Where's the money, Senator?"

Billions for shiny new machines to send young men and women out to fight in, no money for those men and women when they have the audacity to come home wounded instead of dead.
treatment of vets has been pisspoor since george washingtons time. it's ridiculous. hell, they sent andrew jackson and his militia to a fight...changed their mind after they'd already been gone for weeks, andy paid out of his own pocket to get all his men back home.
spend all this money on all these toys, send people to fight for bullsh-- reasons, they come back damaged and backs are turned. it's a disgrace.

i know a lady whose husband was a disabled vietnam vet. he passed away last summer.
first thing that happened, they pay they sent stopped. reason? altho they'd been married over 20 years, they hadn't been married at least 10 years when the determination was made he deserved benefits, so they ended!
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Old 05-30-2014, 11:38 AM
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If you get the chance to see the HBO Vice episode on the amount of waste in Afghanistan, please do so.

If you happen to be on blood pressure medication, be sure to take before watching. Over 100 billion dollars to rebuild the country that has literally, in every sense of the word, has been thrown away and put in the hands of the Taliban.

http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/seg...34441254000e6e
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Old 05-30-2014, 11:46 AM
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If you get the chance to see the HBO Vice episode on the amount of waste in Afghanistan, please do so.

If you happen to be on blood pressure medication, be sure to take before watching. Over 100 billion dollars to rebuild the country that has literally, in every sense of the word, has been thrown away and put in the hands of the Taliban.

http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/seg...34441254000e6e
hell, we've spent blood, sweat, tears and treasure for years in that shithole. trillions spent on a country worth millions. to what end? i have no idea at all. and now we get reassurance from obama that we will maintain a presence there after the war 'ends' at years end. what for?
and don't get me started on all the equipment left behind in iraq, because it was 'cheaper' to leave it.
stupid, just stupid.
i thought we left the mother country way back when to keep out of attempts at empire and the like all over the world.
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hell, we've spent blood, sweat, tears and treasure for years in that shithole. trillions spent on a country worth millions. to what end? i have no idea at all. and now we get reassurance from obama that we will maintain a presence there after the war 'ends' at years end. what for?
and don't get me started on all the equipment left behind in iraq, because it was 'cheaper' to leave it.
stupid, just stupid.
i thought we left the mother country way back when to keep out of attempts at empire and the like all over the world.
Too bad the saber rattlers didn't want to take a page out of the Russian's history book 35 years ago.

but what continues to go on there goes so far and beyond absurd there is no words left in the English language to describe it.

When you have defense contractors scrapping hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of brand new equipment so their budgets don't get un/de-funded the following year, and the Pakistani's then buy the military equipment from the scrap yard to turn over to the Taliban in order to use against us.

Corroborated evidence that prove IED's used against our troops were made from materials in the scrap yards filled by the defense contractors.

How the hell do you find a word that could possibly give this level absurdity it's proper credence?
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Old 05-30-2014, 12:23 PM
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Too bad the saber rattlers didn't want to take a page out of the Russian's history book 35 years ago.

but what continues to go on there goes so far and beyond absurd there is no words left in the English language to describe it.

When you have defense contractors scrapping hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of brand new equipment so their budgets don't get un/de-funded the following year, and the Pakistani's then buy the military equipment from the scrap yard to turn over to the Taliban in order to use against us.

Corroborated evidence that prove IED's used against our troops were made from materials in the scrap yards filled by the defense contractors.

How the hell do you find a word that could possibly give this level absurdity it's proper credence?
yeah, i really don't think there is language strong enough to convey the utter ridiculousness of the situation. it's beyond the limits of our vocabulary.
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