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Old 05-29-2014, 09:26 AM
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I don't have bitterness either , I'd of liked to see it hit by a few people who it would be life changing for : as Tim Ritvo said,

" Gulfsteam President and General Manager Tim Ritvo said while he was naturally disappointed to lose the potential to handle as much as $20 million on Monday’s card with the loss of the Rainbow Six jackpot, he congratulated Borislow for his big win.

“Obviously, we’re heartbroken and disappointed, like everyone else, losing the chance to see how high the pool might have gone to on Monday,” said Ritvo. “But the bet was originally designed with the hope of giving one of our customers the chance to make a life-changing score with the kind of payout we had today.”.

I used to play regular p6 pools once in a while with small tickets, until i finally realized, with Steve Crists commentary in his books and interviews, that it was a very bad play, and should stick to p3,4's... But I'll admit i did play the GP R6 on Saturday thinking that i could hit it and share a few hundred payoff to fund a play on monday and feel ok with it. I didnot hit it and wasnot going to play Monday unless i did.

Then there is Ken Ramsey , who had this to say in the DRF Mike Welsch article,

" Ramsey said he plans to single two of his four starters – Joes Blazing Aaron in the seventh race and Cage Fighter in the ninth – on his Rainbow Pick Six ticket.

" “I’m going to take two singles and wheel the other four races, hoping to get a big price or two,” Ramsey said. “I think Wall Street Kitten [in the fifth race] is ultimately going to be a stakes horse, but he may need a race on Monday. Tohaveandtohold is also very live in the last race. He had a bad trip in his only previous start, is training well, and looks about as good as anything else in that race. But I’m not singling a bottom-level maiden making just the second start of his career.”

Ramsey estimates that the cost of his main Rainbow Pick Six ticket will be $4,100. He also plans to take a few smaller tickets as well.

“If one of my two singles wins, I should hit the thing,” Ramsey said.
Last time I heard, it's illegal for a horse owner to bet against themselves? I remember a top trainer in Ca. getting fined or suspended for collecting on a bet that was not for his horse in the same race. While the carryover did not happen, the tracks should look into his betting activities, since this is not fair to the public. Can you imagine he is alive going into the last leg and he is rooting for a longshot to beat his horse, while you sitting there with a bet on his horse?!!! At least Pete Rose bet on his own team.
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Old 05-29-2014, 09:45 AM
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Last time I heard, it's illegal for a horse owner to bet against themselves? I remember a top trainer in Ca. getting fined or suspended for collecting on a bet that was not for his horse in the same race. While the carryover did not happen, the tracks should look into his betting activities, since this is not fair to the public. Can you imagine he is alive going into the last leg and he is rooting for a longshot to beat his horse, while you sitting there with a bet on his horse?!!! At least Pete Rose bet on his own team.
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Old 05-29-2014, 09:49 AM
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Last time I heard, it's illegal for a horse owner to bet against themselves? I remember a top trainer in Ca. getting fined or suspended for collecting on a bet that was not for his horse in the same race. While the carryover did not happen, the tracks should look into his betting activities, since this is not fair to the public. Can you imagine he is alive going into the last leg and he is rooting for a longshot to beat his horse, while you sitting there with a bet on his horse?!!! At least Pete Rose bet on his own team.
That is an interesting point.
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Old 05-29-2014, 09:52 AM
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Does anyone really think owners don't bet against their horses?
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Old 05-29-2014, 08:25 PM
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Does anyone really think owners don't bet against their horses?
No, but it does not make it right.
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Old 05-30-2014, 12:18 AM
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Last time I heard, it's illegal for a horse owner to bet against themselves? I remember a top trainer in Ca. getting fined or suspended for collecting on a bet that was not for his horse in the same race. While the carryover did not happen, the tracks should look into his betting activities, since this is not fair to the public. Can you imagine he is alive going into the last leg and he is rooting for a longshot to beat his horse, while you sitting there with a bet on his horse?!!! At least Pete Rose bet on his own team.
It would be interesting to know what the actual rule is today. I know when I owned horses 25 years ago the rule was you had to single your horse in multi's for the exact reason you point out. At one point you could only bet your horse on top even in exactas but then they switched it to permit you to have a boxed exacta ticket.
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