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Old 11-29-2006, 09:15 PM
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That wasn't the way I saw it. It looked to me simply that Pincay moved over into Alydar's path as Alydar was flying up the inside, and Alydar clipped heels and almost went down.

How did Shake Shake Shake figure into it? (have to laugh at us arguing a race we saw almost 30 years ago!)

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Alydar is one of my favorite horses of all time..I've watched my video a bazillion times and completely agree with your assessment.
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:30 PM
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It's a damn shame there's scumbags in the world like JT Lundy or we might STILL be talking about the great sons and daughters of Alydar.
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:34 PM
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It's a damn shame there's scumbags in the world like JT Lundy or we might STILL be talking about the great sons and daughters of Alydar.
I actually met him at the yearling sale last year...very odd.

Some people close to him, still to this day, believe he was innocent of the Alydar incident. I've only read Wild Ride so the best I can do is speculate like most people.
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:40 PM
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I actually met him at the yearling sale last year...very odd.

Some people close to him, still to this day, believe he was innocent of the Alydar incident. I've only read Wild Ride so the best I can do is speculate like most people.

" Only read Wild Ride " and you are entertaining thoughts of innocence?

Not me.

I love that book.
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:47 PM
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" Only read Wild Ride " and you are entertaining thoughts of innocence?

Not me.

I love that book.
No, I was stating the position of people who know him better...I on the other hand, feel like most people did after reading that book. And yes a very good read.
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:40 PM
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I actually met him at the yearling sale last year...very odd.

Some people close to him, still to this day, believe he was innocent of the Alydar incident. I've only read Wild Ride so the best I can do is speculate like most people.
you did? at saratoga or keeneland? H says he's REALLY fat, like so fat he can't even walk.
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:44 PM
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In 1985, when Lundy was running Calumet, they hired Smiley Adams as their trainer and he brought a string up to Saratoga about a month before the meet started. JT Lundy rented my parents house for Smiley Adams.

The Dead played at Spac in late June that year, and I showed up in town with some of my friends, and stopped by my house. My Dad was having a drink on the porch with Smiley Adams.

It was all quite a contrast even without throwing Jerry Garcia into the mix.
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:51 PM
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In 1985, when Lundy was running Calumet, they hired Smiley Adams as their trainer and he brought a string up to Saratoga about a month before the meet started. JT Lundy rented my parents house for Smiley Adams.

The Dead played at Spac in late June that year, and I showed up in town with some of my friends, and stopped by my house. My Dad was having a drink on the porch with Smiley Adams.

It was all quite a contrast even without throwing Jerry Garcia into the mix.
I love SPAC. The first day I got my license I drove to Saratoga for the Beastie Boys and the Spa. Cigar won the Whitney that Saturday.
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:53 PM
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I love SPAC. The first day I got my license I drove to Saratoga for the Beastie Boys and the Spa. Cigar won the Whitney that Saturday.

Really?

That must have been the day I was hanging in the Chairman's box with three supermodels.

Really Phil.....Cigar won the Whitney?
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I love SPAC. The first day I got my license I drove to Saratoga for the Beastie Boys and the Spa. Cigar won the Whitney that Saturday.
Umm, how much did you ingest during the concert?
Cigar never ran in any Whitney.
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you did? at saratoga or keeneland? H says he's REALLY fat, like so fat he can't even walk.
Fasig Tipton July. You know, when you read and hear so much about people you expect so much more...I felt the same way when I met Baffert too.

As for Lundy, my first impression was shock that a man like that could have been in control of all that he was. In the middle of the book their are pictures, so I recognized him, but having the real thing in front of you is so different.
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