7 days until they drop the bomb at GP

NTamm1215 · #1 05-19-2014, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Benny

Here is the condition book for GP for Monday May 26 for the big day payoff o the Rainbow 6 . http://www.gulfstreampark.com/racing...ndition-book-8

This was brilliantly done by Gulfstream. They're going to draw both Sunday and Monday and pick the best 6 races between the two days to put in the sequence. They're also incentivizing horseman by given trainers an additional $500 to start. With the door being wide open on Memorial Day, they made a great decision.

I know I'll be involved. Any horseplayer absolutely has to be.

Benny · #2 05-19-2014, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

This was brilliantly done by Gulfstream. They're going to draw both Sunday and Monday and pick the best 6 races between the two days to put in the sequence. They're also incentivizing horseman by given trainers an additional $500 to start. With the door being wide open on Memorial Day, they made a great decision.

I know I'll be involved. Any horseplayer absolutely has to be.

Thanks for the headsup on this. will be much harder now for the small player though. Obviously.

ateamstupid · #3 05-19-2014, 10:44 AM

I'll be taking it easy this week specifically so I can unload on Monday and try to make five figures. It's the best betting opportunity I can remember since I started playing the horses.

tanner12oz · #4 05-19-2014, 08:43 PM

I'm locked and loaded...adding more funds Friday...hopefully we can get a thread going when the card draws and we can take her down

herkhorse · #5 05-20-2014, 06:41 AM

Sheets is gonna do it again!!

casp0555 · #6 05-20-2014, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse

Sheets is gonna do it again!!

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Benny · #7 05-23-2014, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Benny

Thanks for the headsup on this. will be much harder now for the small player though. Obviously.

Mike Welsch had a similar take on ATR regarding the edge given those with deep pockets vs the little guys in having 6 - 12 horae fields. Sure you get much more coverage @ 20 cents wager, BUT, whats the difference vs a normal $2 p6 with a normal card where you can eke out a single or two to lean on with smaller fields. I know the big $$$ of $10-20 mil ia greatly enticing, but i am having conflicting feelings about participating.

hi_im_god · #8 05-23-2014, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Benny

Mike Welsch had a similar take on ATR regarding the edge given those with deep pockets vs the little guys in having 6 - 12 horae fields. Sure you get much more coverage @ 20 cents wager, BUT, whats the difference vs a normal $2 p6 with a normal card where you can eke out a single or two to lean on with smaller fields. I know the big $$$ of $10-20 mil ia greatly enticing, but i am having conflicting feelings about participating.

Year after year you work to beat a 15% plus takeout and then you want to hesitate betting a sequence with an overall positive expectation?

I won't bet more than I can comfortably lose but I don't understand how anyone can think this isn't worth their best effort.

tanner12oz · #9 05-24-2014, 06:23 AM

I'm going to play it with a large ticket but based on the sequence my confidence level is low...dint think you can take a stand anywhere...cage fighter probably most deserving single imo

tector · #10 05-24-2014, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god

Year after year you work to beat a 15% plus takeout and then you want to hesitate betting a sequence with an overall positive expectation?

I won't bet more than I can comfortably lose but I don't understand how anyone can think this isn't worth their best effort.

Yep--a net negative takeout, and still they whine. Incredible.

MISTERGEE · #11 05-20-2014, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

This was brilliantly done by Gulfstream. They're going to draw both Sunday and Monday and pick the best 6 races between the two days to put in the sequence. They're also incentivizing horseman by given trainers an additional $500 to start. With the door being wide open on Memorial Day, they made a great decision.

I know I'll be involved. Any horseplayer absolutely has to be.

I dont know if it is the best 6 races. I heard it was the 6 largest fields drawn

NTamm1215 · #12 05-20-2014, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MISTERGEE

I dont know if it is the best 6 races. I heard it was the 6 largest fields drawn

Best in the context of a Pick 6 is generally (in my opinion) the ones with the largest fields, but I understand your point.

parsixfarms · #13 05-20-2014, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Best in the context of a Pick 6 is generally (in my opinion) the ones with the largest fields, but I understand your point.

Doesn't simply utilizing the six races with the largest, most inscrutable fields work to the benefit of the whales - most likely the type of people who have not been playing the wager all along?

Frost King · #14 05-20-2014, 03:51 PM

Gulfstream wants the payout to be huge. That way they can say, for 0.20 you won $5M. It is in there best interest to make it as tough as possible to have 2/3 winners of this thing.

tbonds · #15 05-20-2014, 04:18 PM

Are they going to payout 5 of 6 as well? Or just to all 6 of 6

ateamstupid · #16 05-20-2014, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tbonds

Are they going to payout 5 of 6 as well? Or just to all 6 of 6

Only 6 of 6.

lemoncrush · #17 05-20-2014, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Frost King

Gulfstream wants the payout to be huge. That way they can say, for 0.20 you won $5M. It is in there best interest to make it as tough as possible to have 2/3 winners of this thing.

I think they would want a lot of winners, not just a few, esoecially to turn more people onto the wager next year.
And with a 20 cent increment and at least 4-5 million being bet into it, there will be a lot of winning tickets.

tanner12oz · #18 05-20-2014, 04:24 PM

I have a strong feeling that things might not be as they appear come Monday...too much money of the line for greed to not take hold

blackthroatedwind · #19 05-20-2014, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Frost King

Gulfstream wants the payout to be huge. That way they can say, for 0.20 you won $5M. It is in there best interest to make it as tough as possible to have 2/3 winners of this thing.

Actually, that is the exact opposite of what they want.

It is already quite possible the $6 million sitting in a proverbial shoebox has been damaging churn on a national level. If there were somehow two or three winners, a virtually impossible occurrence, it would be very bad for handle going further.

I hope reasonably short prices win every race and we can get the money back into the hands of players.

casp0555 · #20 05-20-2014, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Actually, that is the exact opposite of what they want.

It is already quite possible the $6 million sitting in a proverbial shoebox has been damaging churn on a national level. If there were somehow two or three winners, a virtually impossible occurrence, it would be very bad for handle going further.

I hope reasonably short prices win every race and we can get the money back into the hands of players.

well stated.....