The Derby figure

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Mack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICdXAmd1TWA

This video is for Andy Beyer, but replace Larry Bird, Kevin McHale, and Robert Parrish with Secretariat, Spectacular Bid, and Affirmed.

I'm beyond tired of the constant denigration of today's horses and the longing for the heroes of yesteryear. Accept that this is the new normal and enjoy it. As a newbie to the game, I naturally get defensive when I hear how crappy and slow horses like California Chrome, I'll Have Another, and Union Rags are.

MLB Batting averages are considerably lower than in the 20's and 30's, but I don't see baseball fans pining for the good ole days and talking about how terrible Big Papi or Derek Jeter are because they don't hit .400, 50 HR, 150 RBI every year like Babe Ruth did.

I appreciate the past very much, but I choose to celebrate the present.

Cool story.

You should ignore Beyer figures...and instead focus on Thoro Graph. The scale suggests the thoroughbred is far superior today.

We Miss Artie is faster than Alysheba and Sunday Silence.

Maybe they're right. Beyer figs weighted by Pars. It sure would be fun to see if Commanding Curve could smoke the greats of the late 80's ... but they'd have to step out of a time machine.

[alysheba4]

sunday silence could have spotted artie a furlong and beat him.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by alysheba4

sunday silence could have spotted artie a furlong and beat him.

Celebrate the present.

Artie was valiantly defeated by 8.25 lengths twice in a week. Once in the Ky Derby, and once in a 5 furlong workout.

[Mack]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Celebrate the present.

Artie was valiantly defeated by 8.25 lengths twice in a week. Once in the Ky Derby, and once in a 5 furlong workout.

Although Artie got revenge on the horse who beat him in that 5f workout by beating him in the Derby. I guess Intense Holiday didn't get the memo on how good he looked in those works.

[Mack]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Cool story.

You should ignore Beyer figures...and instead focus on Thoro Graph. The scale suggests the thoroughbred is far superior today.

We Miss Artie is faster than Alysheba and Sunday Silence.

Maybe they're right. Beyer figs weighted by Pars. It sure would be fun to see if Commanding Curve could smoke the greats of the late 80's ... but they'd have to step out of a time machine.

You're missing my point. I'm not saying thoroughbreds today are better. I believe quite the opposite in fact, and the evidence is pretty clear. I'm also a believer in Beyer's figs.

I'm just saying I'm tired of hearing about how terrible horses are now compared to then. I've accepted this as a new normal and don't want to keep banging on about the decline of the American Thoroughbred.

The greatness of an athlete is defined by the era they compete in, and not entirely by where they sit in relation to the accomplishments of the past.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Mack

You're missing my point. I'm not saying thoroughbreds today are better. I believe quite the opposite in fact, and the evidence is pretty clear. I'm also a believer in Beyer's figs.

I'm just saying I'm tired of hearing about how terrible horses are now compared to then. I've accepted this as a new normal and don't want to keep banging on about the decline of the American Thoroughbred.

The greatness of an athlete is defined by the era they compete in, and not entirely by where they sit in relation to the accomplishments of the past.

I don't disagree. Untapable has delivered three great performances in a row for a 3yo filly.

Wise Dan and Game on Dude have maintained top class form for over 3 years.

Titans of the Turf are still out there and they always will be

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I don't disagree. Untapable has delivered three great performances in a row for a 3yo filly.

Wise Dan and Game on Dude have maintained top class form for over 3 years.

Titans of the Turf are still out there and they always will be

Game On Dude must be the most unsexy horse that has ever lived. There have been horses with half his accomplishments, speed and longevity that have been much more celebrated.