You are paying for it

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

People with Masters and PHD's are unemployed now too. That's what you get for leaving an H1B program in place to fix a problem 15 years longer than necessary.

This board is way too boring when I let you ignore Dell

I loathe repeating myself to someone with their fingers in their ears yelling lalala. Swift is correct about reasoning with people who dont use reason. So i gave up

Underemployment is a huge issue....there are people with a lot of education who are questioning their decision to go to college, because they cant find a job...or cant find one that pays. So they take what they can get while hunting for better.....thus, they are lazy....right? Where my husband works, less jobs, more automation, same output. Less than half the jobs they once provided..with robots doing more and more work.
Then, as prices have risen, wages have not. Again, google and see the study of a car price in the 60s vs now, and the workers ability to buy that car vs now.

Or....one can just say thats all not so. But it is so

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

I loathe repeating myself to someone with their fingers in their ears yelling lalala. Swift is correct about reasoning with people who dont use reason. So i gave up

Too bad it wasn't before the PETA thread.

[Danzig]

Jms, i also wonder if people get their degree...cant find a job, so they go back to school and aork on masters, doctorates, thinking thatll help(and one hasnt got to pay student loans while in school) so now they have even more education...and still, one job for every three applicants.
We have made huge strides in technology, to keep up with demand, while hurting the very people our increasing technology is meant to help. I watch shows like modern marvels, tha5 show machines cranking out prudct at amazing rates...and wonder how many people used to do the jobs these machines do now. It used to be that if you needed to produce more, you hired more people or added shifts or built another factory. Now, you just install another machine.

[jms62]

http://www.thewire.com/politics/2014...#disqus_thread

This will certainly help wages

[jms62]

Moved

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

I loathe repeating myself to someone with their fingers in their ears yelling lalala.

Or....one can just say thats all not so. But it is so

Oh you'll never know the irony of you having your fingers in your ear continuously repeating yourself.

It's libertarding and brings back memories of our village board idiot!

[dellinger63]

Just realized if US Median Income had kept up with the raises in Welfare Benefits from 1974 it would be $151,164 and minimum wage would be $24.92....

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Danzig

I loathe repeating myself to someone with their fingers in their ears yelling lalala. Swift is correct about reasoning with people who dont use reason. So i gave up

Underemployment is a huge issue....there are people with a lot of education who are questioning their decision to go to college, because they cant find a job...or cant find one that pays. So they take what they can get while hunting for better.....thus, they are lazy....right? Where my husband works, less jobs, more automation, same output. Less than half the jobs they once provided..with robots doing more and more work.
Then, as prices have risen, wages have not. Again, google and see the study of a car price in the 60s vs now, and the workers ability to buy that car vs now.

Or....one can just say thats all not so. But it is so

There are a lot of people with degrees that still have no education or marketable skills. College is not for everyone.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

There are a lot of people with degrees that still have no education or marketable skills. College is not for everyone.

true that not all degrees are useful. however, it isn't true that people don't have education, or that people are lazy, etc, etc.
we always told people if you work hard, you can get ahead. that's changing, and not for the better.

[Rudeboyelvis]

#1 on Amazon's best seller list


>>>...In Piketty's view, backed by centuries of data on wealth and economic growth, the typical outcome of unfettered capitalism is rising income inequality. Piketty says the world's biggest economies have to do something, like impose a global tax on capital, to stop it. As Piketty said in an interview with HuffPost Live last week, income inequality is only getting started, and this century could look a lot more like the deeply unequal 18th and 19th centuries than the more-egalitarian 20th....<<<


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5191566.html

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

#1 on Amazon's best seller list


>>>...In Piketty's view, backed by centuries of data on wealth and economic growth, the typical outcome of unfettered capitalism is rising income inequality. Piketty says the world's biggest economies have to do something, like impose a global tax on capital, to stop it. As Piketty said in an interview with HuffPost Live last week, income inequality is only getting started, and this century could look a lot more like the deeply unequal 18th and 19th centuries than the more-egalitarian 20th....<<<


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5191566.html

Oligarchy

We are becoming third world where a few in business are disgustingly wealthy and they buy the politicians to rig the rules to make themselves even more wealthy. Death Spiral if you ask me.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by jms62

Oligarchy

We are becoming third world where a few in business are disgustingly wealthy and they buy the politicians to rig the rules to make themselves even more wealthy. Death Spiral if you ask me.

Exactly...And nothing new - from the 2012 Mitt Romney thread where Joey promised us how much better things would be with a Republitard in charge:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

A Corporate Oligarchy is a form of power, governmental or operational, where such power effectively rests with a small, elite group of inside individuals, sometimes from a small group of educational institutions, or influential economic entities or devices, such as banks, commercial entities, lobbyists that act in complicity with, or at the whim of the oligarchy, often with little or no regard for constitutionally protected prerogative.

Monopolies are sometimes granted to state-controlled entities, such as the Royal Charter granted to the East India Company, or privileged bargaining rights to unions (labor monopolies) with very partisan political interests.

This is what we are living in.

Only when we all collectively dismiss the bullsi.t spewed from the corporate-controlled (RE: State Run) media and reclaim our nation, can we try that whole "Constitutionally Federated Republic" thing again.

but if you think you're getting there with Romney or Obama, I'd say you're in for a disappointment.

[Danzig]

another take on the minimum wage, from a point of view i'd never considered-how it would level the playing field a bit between small business owners and large corporations.

http://www.slate.com/articles/busine...er_living.html


hubby and i talked about this more than once over the weekend...the walmartization of our economy, with the big fish gulping up the small.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

Oligarchy

We are becoming third world where a few in business are disgustingly wealthy and they buy the politicians to rig the rules to make themselves even more wealthy. Death Spiral if you ask me.

Hey Chicken Little,

The other side.

We consider 'poor' for a single person at $11,670 or under and that comes out to $40/day.

Give me some stats on how close we're becoming a third world country, or even close to one.

P.S. the sky isn't falling!

As demonstrated earlier if only minimum wage and US median income had kept up with increases to welfare since 40 years ago we'd be at $24/hr. plus minimum wage and $150K plus US median income.

Then again we are the most generous country on earth despite the inability of 25% of our citizens being unable to graduate from high-school.

Take another bow America you deserve it!

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Hey Chicken Little,

The other side.

We consider 'poor' for a single person at $11,670 or under and that comes out to $40/day.

Give me some stats on how close we're becoming a third world country, or even close to one.

P.S. the sky isn't falling!

As demonstrated earlier if only minimum wage and US median income had kept up with increases to welfare since 40 years ago we'd be at $24/hr. plus minimum wage and $150K plus US median income.

Then again we are the most generous country on earth despite the inability of 25% of our citizens being unable to graduate from high-school.

Take another bow America you deserve it!

Truly amazing. Again my point goes flying over your head. rudeboy had no problems grasping it. Always debating an issue that no one is talking about.

http://gofrontrow.com/en/reading-com...FU4aOgodmCAAtg

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

#1 on Amazon's best seller list


>>>...In Piketty's view, backed by centuries of data on wealth and economic growth, the typical outcome of unfettered capitalism is rising income inequality. Piketty says the world's biggest economies have to do something, like impose a global tax on capital, to stop it. As Piketty said in an interview with HuffPost Live last week, income inequality is only getting started, and this century could look a lot more like the deeply unequal 18th and 19th centuries than the more-egalitarian 20th....<<<


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5191566.html

i'm reading the slate article about the book now. need to get it along with my penman book i'm ordering. piketty was one i saw referenced in my thursday posts on this thread. wasn't able to copy/paste because i was on my new phone, and i haven't figured out all that crap yet!


'A 2013 study by Thomas Piketty, Emmanuel Saez et al., notes that the rise in the share of total annual income received by the top 1%, which has more than doubled since 1976, has had a significant effect on overall income inequality. It states: "It is tempting to dismiss the study of this group as a passing political fad due to the slogans of the Occupy movement or as the academic equivalent of reality TV. But the magnitudes are truly substantial."[46] Also in 2013, the Economic Policy Institute noted that even though corporate profits are at historic highs, the wage and benefit growth of the vast majority has stagnated. The fruits of overall growth have accrued disproportionately to the top 1%'.