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![]() Worse Derby field than the Big Brown derby?
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![]() Here's 12 best Beyers of the field (without today's figs). What's wrong with the level of performance these have established?
California Chrome SA 08 Mar 1 1/16M 108 Wicked Strong AQU 05 Apr 1 1/8M 104 Chitu SUN 23 Mar 1 1/8M 102 General a Rod GP 22 Feb 1 1/16M 101 Wildcat Red GP 22 Feb 1 1/16M 101 Hoppertunity OP 15 Mar 1 1/16M 100 Constitution GP 29 Mar 1 1/8M 99 Tapiture OP 15 Mar 1 1/16M 99 Wildcat Red GP 29 Mar 1 1/8M 99 Midnight Hawk SUN 23 Mar 1 1/8M 98 Ride On Curlin OP 15 Mar 1 1/16M 98 Samraat AQU 05 Apr 1 1/8M 98
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![]() When was the last time there were more horses with TDBeyers than those without?
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![]() This discussion leads to the logical conclusion that the derby should be capped at 14 horses.
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![]() Every year people say the 3YOs suck irrespective of facts.
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![]() As shown by 10 Point's handy research, an irrelevancy. The question asked was what was wrong with the level of accomplishment of the top 2/3'rds of the prospective Derby field and the answer is nothing. It appears a solid, slightly-better-than-average-in-April group of sophs.
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![]() I don't think so.
I'd say 2014 is definitely better than 2009 as well (Friesan Fire was the favorite and Mine that Bird was the winner). |
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![]() There is a certain board member here that gave out Danza yesterday morning on twitter. I won't mention any names, but his initials are Jay Frederick. Just your typical $84 winner. Ho hum...
Glad you crushed it, bro. ![]() |
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![]() Nice pick Jay Frederick! I wish I knew when to jump on to someone else's opinion. I wish I knew when to jump on my own as well, I'd be rich.
I somehow made up this theory that Pletcher was using Danza as a rabbit to help his other entrant. So coming into the stretch it looked like a replay of the Fla. derby with Danza getting a dream trip on the rail similar to Constitution, only this time there was no Wildcat Red to battle back. This spring there have been 4 preps to compare the 3 yo's to TOP older horses. Fountain of Youth Wildcat Red 1 1/16 (1:35.24) 1:41.85 101 beyer Normandy Invasion 1 mile 1:33.13(NTR) 100 beyer San Felipe Cali Chrome 1 1/16 (1:33.94) 1:40.59 108 beyer Game on Dude 1 1/4 (1:32.57) 1:58.17 117 beyer La. Derby Vicar's In Trouble 1 1/8 (1:37.15) 1:50.77 97 beyer Palace Malice 1 1/8 (1:36.31) 1:48.93 114 beyer Ark. Derby Danza 1 1/8 (1:37.38) 1:49.68 ? beyer Will Take Charge 1 1/8 (1:36.87) 1:49.55 ? beyer Danza ran huge in comparison. I don't understand how Normandy Invasion wins by 7, sets a new track record and gets trumped by Wildcat Red on the beyer fig. |
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![]() congrats, jay, on a great pick!
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