2013-2014 NBA Season

[Immanuel Kant]

Watching the Pacer implosion has been one of the most bizarre events I have seen in a very long time of viewing the NBA

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Immanuel Kant

Watching the Pacer implosion has been one of the most bizarre events I have seen in a very long time of viewing the NBA

Right now that 3rd seed in the East is geting important as you would face Washington then Pacers vs Broolyn and Heat. Got to believe Indiana will get it turned around though

[knickslions2]

Interesting fact for you gamblers

The Pacers are 4-25-1 against the spread over last 30 games. Wow

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by Immanuel Kant

Watching the Pacer implosion has been one of the most bizarre events I have seen in a very long time of viewing the NBA

I think it's a combination of Paul George's personal problems and chemistry problems since Turner was brought in. Watching the Pacers you can tell certain players don't get along at all.

[King Glorious]

You are James, Wade, or Bosh. Pat Riley comes to you and says if all three of you pot out and re-sign for $10 million, I can get Pau Gasol or Carmelo Anthony in here. What do you say?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

You are James, Wade, or Bosh. Pat Riley comes to you and says if all three of you pot out and re-sign for $10 million, I can get Pau Gasol or Carmelo Anthony in here. What do you say?

Wade and Bosh should be a slam dunk yes. Its a shame whats happening with Wade. If healthy, right now still he is a top 5 players. Bosh might be 22-10 somewhere else, but he is still soft and moist and wants to bomb 3's and not play inside. I think if they win it this year, they stay together. If Wade cant play or they just get beat straight up I think Lebron leaves. We shall see.

[RockHardTen1985]

The number of games literally means nothing. Im betting the series, I already have locked in at the prices I list.

San Antonio, but Dallas gets 2. No bet here as the Spurs are minus 900. Actually if I had to bet it I would take Dallas at plus 640. Again no bet here, Spurs in 6.

Memphis in 7. Clearly OKC can win, but I dont love the way they finished the season. Ill stab $100 on Memphis plus 330

Golden State in 7. Not as confident as I would be with Bogut being out. But I cant jump ship now. Golden St for $200 at plus 320.

Houston. I like them in 6. I was hoping this series would be close to even. But Houston is to much a chalk for me to wager.

Miami in 5.

Indiana in 5. No bets straight up on either

Toronto in 7. Value at plus 140. Toronto for $100 at plus 140

Wizards in 7. Value at plus 175 IMO. Washington for $100 at plus 175

My finals prediction is Miami vs either Houston, Golden St or LA. My only strong opinion in the West is that I dont think either of the top 2 seeds gets to the Finals.

[Immanuel Kant]

As a life-long Raptor "fan" (since year one 1995) I can't tell you how much it means to be back in the playoffs........

Now that that is out of the way......

Raps cannot win this series..on paper

Nets are too big, too strong, too experienced

I think the telling advantage is the Bigs....here's a list of those players on the playoff roster 6 foot 10 and taller

Toronto--Jonas, Hansbrough, Patterson, Novak

Brooklyn--Blatche, Collins, Garnett, Plumlee, Lopez


It's asking Jonas, Tyler and PP a hell of a lot to battle equally for 48 minutes...let alone 7 games.....Blatche is the deal breaker here...Raps have no one to stop him


Lowry has had a season from the Gods......Nets will trap him and double him forcing him to give up the ball....if he does Raps are doomed.....if he doesn't he'll get hurt within the first two games and puffftttt

DeRozan will get exposed this series......Ross will try but he's a rookie(playoff-wise, about to be schooled)..If the media try to paint the story of Joe Johnson getting the AS appearance at the expense of Lowry they just might discover Joe lighting up the Raps one game for 40.....here's a guess...Johnson averages more points than DeRozan and Ross

My head says Nets in 5 or 6 I hope I'm wrong
My heart says GO Raptors

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Immanuel Kant

As a life-long Raptor "fan" (since year one 1995) I can't tell you how much it means to be back in the playoffs........

Now that that is out of the way......

Raps cannot win this series..on paper

Nets are too big, too strong, too experienced

I think the telling advantage is the Bigs....here's a list of those players on the playoff roster 6 foot 10 and taller

Toronto--Jonas, Hansbrough, Patterson, Novak

Brooklyn--Blatche, Collins, Garnett, Plumlee, Lopez


It's asking Jonas, Tyler and PP a hell of a lot to battle equally for 48 minutes...let alone 7 games.....Blatche is the deal breaker here...Raps have no one to stop him


Lowry has had a season from the Gods......Nets will trap him and double him forcing him to give up the ball....if he does Raps are doomed.....if he doesn't he'll get hurt within the first two games and puffftttt

DeRozan will get exposed this series......Ross will try but he's a rookie(playoff-wise, about to be schooled)..If the media try to paint the story of Joe Johnson getting the AS appearance at the expense of Lowry they just might discover Joe lighting up the Raps one game for 40.....here's a guess...Johnson averages more points than DeRozan and Ross

My head says Nets in 5 or 6 I hope I'm wrong
My heart says GO Raptors

Did you just say Blatche cant be stopped?
Dont hear that very often.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

The number of games literally means nothing. Im betting the series, I already have locked in at the prices I list.

San Antonio, but Dallas gets 2. No bet here as the Spurs are minus 900. Actually if I had to bet it I would take Dallas at plus 640. Again no bet here, Spurs in 6.

Memphis in 7. Clearly OKC can win, but I dont love the way they finished the season. Ill stab $100 on Memphis plus 330

Golden State in 7. Not as confident as I would be with Bogut being out. But I cant jump ship now. Golden St for $200 at plus 320.

Houston. I like them in 6. I was hoping this series would be close to even. But Houston is to much a chalk for me to wager.

Miami in 5.

Indiana in 5. No bets straight up on either

Toronto in 7. Value at plus 140. Toronto for $100 at plus 140

Wizards in 7. Value at plus 175 IMO. Washington for $100 at plus 175

My finals prediction is Miami vs either Houston, Golden St or LA. My only strong opinion in the West is that I dont think either of the top 2 seeds gets to the Finals.

1-0 on series plays. plus $175

[Duvalier]

31 shots taken by Westbrook?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

You are James, Wade, or Bosh. Pat Riley comes to you and says if all three of you pot out and re-sign for $10 million, I can get Pau Gasol or Carmelo Anthony in here. What do you say?

NBA would never approve the contracts.

Us as them would say sure but Bosh doesnt exactly have a whole bunch of endorsements lined up like James to be giving up 10 million a year during the end of his prime earning years and Wade is a big players union guy who wouldn't sell them out that badly I don't believe.

[King Glorious]

I agree on all points. The question would be how can you force guys to take more money if they agree to less? As you said, Wade is a union guy and James is too so they would not do it. Would be an interesting idea though. I wonder what's going to happen down there. If I were James and Wade and Bosh opt in like they are expected to, I would seriously consider leaving. But that would do serious damage to his reputation again.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I agree on all points. The question would be how can you force guys to take more money if they agree to less? As you said, Wade is a union guy and James is too so they would not do it. Would be an interesting idea though. I wonder what's going to happen down there. If I were James and Wade and Bosh opt in like they are expected to, I would seriously consider leaving. But that would do serious damage to his reputation again.

The same way you can veto a trade that two teams agree to.

I think if they lose this year James leaving wouldnt be a big negative anymore. The tricky part is that this years FA class is really weak in terms of impact players that would actually leave their current teams. Obviously James is the biggest name if he opts out but if Carmelo resigns with the Knicks and they slog through 2014-15 they will have Hardaway, Shumpert, Anthony, a 1st round pick, a ton of cap space and a credible guy in charge even though he has no front office experience. What if Miami wins this year, Bosh and James stay in Miami one more year then relocate to NY? Bosh is a perfect triangle fit and James can play any role.

Maybe I'm delusional but try to imagine where else James would go? Where else makes sense?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The same way you can veto a trade that two teams agree to.

I think if they lose this year James leaving wouldnt be a big negative anymore. The tricky part is that this years FA class is really weak in terms of impact players that would actually leave their current teams. Obviously James is the biggest name if he opts out but if Carmelo resigns with the Knicks and they slog through 2014-15 they will have Hardaway, Shumpert, Anthony, a 1st round pick, a ton of cap space and a credible guy in charge even though he has no front office experience. What if Miami wins this year, Bosh and James stay in Miami one more year then relocate to NY? Bosh is a perfect triangle fit and James can play any role.

Maybe I'm delusional but try to imagine where else James would go? Where else makes sense?

I thought NY was not possible, it is. After this year, I think if they win this year they come back for next year. Maybe win again, then Lebron goes to NY.

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by Immanuel Kant

Watching the Pacer implosion has been one of the most bizarre events I have seen in a very long time of viewing the NBA

Originally Posted by Duvalier

I think it's a combination of Paul George's personal problems and chemistry problems since Turner was brought in. Watching the Pacers you can tell certain players don't get along at all.

http://nba.si.com/2014/04/23/lance-s...tice-playoffs/

[ateamstupid]

It's the Andrew Bynum effect.

[Duvalier]

These NBA playoffs have been incredible so far. It's unfortunate that Al Jefferson got hurt during the first game against Miami, he's still tough for the Heat to defend even on one leg.

It's unreal how ****ed up the Pacers are.

As far as the West goes...it still looks like it's wide open and anyones for the taking.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

These NBA playoffs have been incredible so far. It's unfortunate that Al Jefferson got hurt during the first game against Miami, he's still tough for the Heat to defend even on one leg.

It's unreal how ****ed up the Pacers are.

As far as the West goes...it still looks like it's wide open and anyones for the taking.

West is crazy. Top 2 seeds can legit lose. OKC blew a 20 point lead in game 1, they could be down 3-0. Dallas blew a big late lead in game 1, they could be up 2-0.
GS got screwed, definite foul on Paul, horrible no call.

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

West is crazy. Top 2 seeds can legit lose. OKC blew a 20 point lead in game 1, they could be down 3-0. Dallas blew a big late lead in game 1, they could be up 2-0.
GS got screwed, definite foul on Paul, horrible no call.

The officiating throughout the playoffs so far has been let's just say...pretty bad.

A look at different NBA referees trends and tendencies:

http://www.oddsshark.com/nba/referee...ing-statistics