Keeneland returning to dirt

[pmayjr]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i hope they manage to install a fair surface, tho. a lot of people took issue with the previous dirt track.


poor pmayjr

aren't you glad they finally cured the black plague of racing? You're full of S if you claim that you quit betting that track once they got a synth surface. You all are.

All I ever argued with the synth surfaces is that they can co-exist with dirt tracks, and that they provide very good betting opportunities. So ok... fine. It's dirt again. It's Keeneland. They'll still get top-quality fields... hopefully without the speed bias

Per Bloodhorse- Keeneland CEO BIll Thomason quote:
"We think it achieved every objective that we wanted with the exception that we hoped it would become the most prevalent racing surface in the United States and that everybody would have it," Thomason said of Polytrack. "For various reasons that has not happened. We regret that it didn't become the prevalent surface... But we also don't think we have to sacrifice the safety parts of it. We are going to be diligent in working toward the safety of the dirt track. We don't think those two are mutually exclusive."

Hopefully they're very proactive with the last part of that quote

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

aren't you glad they finally cured the black plague of racing? You're full of S if you claim that you quit betting that track once they got a synth surface. You all are.

All I ever argued with the synth surfaces is that they can co-exist with dirt tracks, and that they provide very good betting opportunities. So ok... fine. It's dirt again. It's Keeneland. They'll still get top-quality fields... hopefully without the speed bias

Per Bloodhorse- Keeneland CEO BIll Thomason quote:
"We think it achieved every objective that we wanted with the exception that we hoped it would become the most prevalent racing surface in the United States and that everybody would have it," Thomason said of Polytrack. "For various reasons that has not happened. We regret that it didn't become the prevalent surface... But we also don't think we have to sacrifice the safety parts of it. We are going to be diligent in working toward the safety of the dirt track. We don't think those two are mutually exclusive."

Hopefully they're very proactive with the last part of that quote

they can't and won't co-exist. if they could, the tracks wouldn't be going back to tried and true. this was a ridiculous move, a panacea, a cure all that turned out to be snake oil. keeneland is right, they wanted it to be prevalent-since they were selling the crap. can't argue with that.
the remarks about new coke were spot on-this was 'better', but everyone likes classic better.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

aren't you glad they finally cured the black plague of racing? You're full of S if you claim that you quit betting that track once they got a synth surface. You all are.

All I ever argued with the synth surfaces is that they can co-exist with dirt tracks, and that they provide very good betting opportunities. So ok... fine. It's dirt again. It's Keeneland. They'll still get top-quality fields... hopefully without the speed bias

Per Bloodhorse- Keeneland CEO BIll Thomason quote:
"We think it achieved every objective that we wanted with the exception that we hoped it would become the most prevalent racing surface in the United States and that everybody would have it," Thomason said of Polytrack. "For various reasons that has not happened. We regret that it didn't become the prevalent surface... But we also don't think we have to sacrifice the safety parts of it. We are going to be diligent in working toward the safety of the dirt track. We don't think those two are mutually exclusive."

Hopefully they're very proactive with the last part of that quote

No, not everybody is full of S. I really did quit betting it. Keep in mind it is my home track and would make sense to be the highest handle (per racing day). The proof is right here in my Twinspires account from the last 365 days. The $772 I bet was 2.52% of my total handle of $30,649 on TS for the year.
http://1drv.ms/1k0enkx

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by philcski

No, not everybody is full of S. I really did quit betting it. Keep in mind it is my home track and would make sense to be the highest handle (per racing day). The proof is right here in my Twinspires account from the last 365 days. The $772 I bet was 2.52% of my total handle of $30,649 on TS for the year.
http://1drv.ms/1k0enkx

Gotta love how you at least tried to show a little love to every track.

[dellinger63]

I've also heard rumors DelMar and Keeneland will be courting a Breeder's Cup in the near future.

NO to Keeneland and a HUGE YES to DelMar unless they move the BC date to Aug-Sept.

Welcome to dirt nonetheless....

That said I will be betting Keeneland come Friday.

Just venting!

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I've also heard rumors DelMar and Keeneland will be courting a Breeder's Cup in the near future.

NO to Keeneland and a HUGE YES to DelMar unless they move the BC date to Aug-Sept.

Welcome to dirt nonetheless....

That said I will be betting Keeneland come Friday.

Just venting!

I don't know how either track could host that many people. Attendance would be huge at Keeneland.

I just prefer Churchill when it comes down to it though.

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I don't know how either track could host that many people. Attendance would be huge at Keeneland.

I just prefer Churchill when it comes down to it though.

I'm with you. If it's at either of these, I'm there.

[Sightseek]

It is interesting that many of the outspoken on twitter in favor of synthetic and/or banning lasix continue to buy, sell or breed dirt horses. Guess it really comes down to the $$$.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Gotta love how you at least tried to show a little love to every track.

The degeneracy is strong with this one.