Derby Trail/Triple Crown Notebook

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Shouldn't Edison and Gala Award be pointing towards dirt races? Bernardini is a dirt sire! I wonder how good they'd both be.

I would not call Bernardini a dirt sire, so far he has been a major disapointment. And Pletcher is pretty sharp, Im guessing if either could dirt they would have already run over the surface.

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I would not call Bernardini a dirt sire, so far he has been a major disapointment. And Pletcher is pretty sharp, Im guessing if either could dirt they would have already run over the surface.

And I would have to disagree, as Bernardini is very much a dirt sire in my book. Connections make mistakes all the time. Cigar biggest example. Imperative is a recent example of a better dirt horse sired by Bernardini.

[letswastemoney]

But, I'm not saying Bernardinis are good overall, only that they're better on dirt and excellent on wet dirt.

[pmayjr]

since Edison and Gala Award are owned by the Coolmores, maybe they're telling Todd where to enter the horses? Eventhough they're both Bernardinis, and one would think their preferred surfaces would be dirt, the Coolmores probably are the ones calling the shots.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

since Gala Award is owned by the Coolmores, maybe they're telling Todd where to enter the horse? Eventhough he is a Bernardini, and one would think his preferred surface would be dirt, the Coolmores probably are the ones calling the shots.

Regardless of what some people say, Bernardini has been a gigantic bust as a sire. And again, just because he is a Bernardini does not mean he will be better on dirt. There is pretty much 0 chance at all that Todd does not already know the horse cant run on dirt, or horses in this case.

[pmayjr]

I dispute that... I mean, you could definitely be right, but I don't think it's proven yet. How do we know until we see him run over the surface? I think Poker Player has awesome potential on dirt as well. Should I think because Catalano has only entered him on dirt and synth that he won't ever be a dirt horse?

[Kasept]

Rusty Arnold tells ATR listeners that recent Gulfstream MDN winner Woodfield Springs (Raven's Pass) will go in Blue Grass @keeneland next..

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I would not call Bernardini a dirt sire, so far he has been a major disapointment. And Pletcher is pretty sharp, Im guessing if either could dirt they would have already run over the surface.

I'm not sure what you would call him then.

Bernardini Dirt stats.
1071 starts from 198 different horses 17% Winners 44% ITM 28 stakes wins.
236 starts on an off track 21% winners.

Bernardini's turf stats
361 starts from 128 different horses. 7% winners 28% ITM 2 stakes wins.
Around 3-4% first time turf.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

I'm not sure what you would call him then.

Bernardini Dirt stats.
1071 starts from 198 different horses 17% Winners 44% ITM 28 stakes wins.
236 starts on an off track 21% winners.

Bernardini's turf stats
361 starts from 128 different horses. 7% winners 28% ITM 2 stakes wins.
Around 3-4% first time turf.

I would call him a giant bust as a sire.

[Kasept]

Spiral from ‏@DRFMcGee:

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11-We Miss Artie
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[Kasept]

Sherman tells Steve Anderson that Cal Chrome a go for SA Derby..

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Sherman tells Steve Anderson that Cal Chrome a go for SA Derby..

Good news!!