3/8 (SA): Big Cap, Kilroe (G1's), San Carlos, San Felipe (G2's)

[lemoncrush]

Santa Anita Handicap:

1 Will Take Charge Saez 123 (2-1) L
2 Mucho Macho Man Stevens G L 124 (9-5) L
3 Blingo Gryder A T 117 (8-1) L
4 Imperative Desormeaux K J 114 (12-1) L
5 Rousing Sermon Bejarano R 114 (12-1) L
6 American Blend Talamo J 114 (20-1) L
7 Game On Dude Smith M E 122 (5-2) L
8 Hear the Ghost Rosario J 114 (20-1) L

With all due respect to Jon White, I cannot see Game on Dude at 5-2 in this spot. I realize he'll still take a lot of money based on his reputation and overall record at Santa Anita, but isn't 5-1 more realistic? He just got drilled by Blingo for god sakes. And now add Will Take Charge and Mucho Macho Man to the mix.

[Jay Frederick]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

With all due respect to Jon White, I cannot see Game on Dude at 5-2 in this spot. I realize he'll still take a lot of money based on his reputation and overall record at Santa Anita, but isn't 5-1 more realistic? He just got drilled by Blingo for god sakes. And now add Will Take Charge and Mucho Macho Man to the mix.

I'll be shocked if he is as high as 5-1.

I think his odds will be closer to Will Take Charge's than a lot of people think with Mucho Macho Man the favorite.

Why baffert didnt put Shakin it up in the Big Cap? He won the Malibu and the Strub and the Big Cap is the finale in the Strub Series
He has great closing speed and could have been in the mix late.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

Why baffert didnt put Shakin it up in the Big Cap? He won the Malibu and the Strub and the Big Cap is the finale in the Strub Series
He has great closing speed and could have been in the mix late.

Nope.

[Kasept]

5th (2:00) San Felipe S. (G2)

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Home Run Kitten Quinonez A 118 L
2 Unstoppable Colby Saez L 118 L
3 Rprettyboyfloyd Nakatani C S 118 L
4 California Chrome Espinoza V 118 L
5 Sawyer's Hill Garcia M 118 L
6 Bayern Stevens G L 118 L
7 Kristo Rosario J 118 L
8 Schoolofhardrocks Talamo J 118 FTL
9 Midnight Hawk Smith M E 120 L
10 Recanted Gutierrez Mario 118 L



6th (2:30) China Doll S.

1 Mile (Turf) | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $75,000

1 Anniversary Kitty Nakatani C S 117 L
2 Loan Savant Gutierrez Mario 117 L
3 Sushi Empire Espinoza V 122 L
4 Soresca (IRE) SutherlandKruse C 117 L
5 Screen Goddess Rosario J 117 L
6 Tiz Kissable Baze T C 117 L
7 Nashoba's Gold Talamo J 117 L
8 Diversy Harbor Stevens G L 117 L
9 Uzziel Blanc B 117 L
10 Sheza Smoke Show Saez L 117 L
11 On the Backstreets Bejarano R 117 L
12 Savings Account Smith M E 117 L
13 Full Ransom Desormeaux K J 122 L



7th (3:00) San Carlos S. (G2)

7 Furlongs | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Sahara Sky Rosario J 120 L
2 Clubhouse Ride Baze T C 120 L
3 Zeewat Nakatani C S 118 L
4 Big Macher Saez L 118 L
5 Cyclometer Talamo J 118 L
6 Wild Dude Bejarano R 123 L
7 Ready for More Garcia M 118 L
8 Let's Get Crackin Delgadillo A 118 L
9 Midnight Transfer Espinoza V 118 L
10 Shakin It Up Smith M E 123 L



8th (3:30) Frank E. Kilroe Mile S. (G1)

1 Mile (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $350,000

1 Lochte Bocachica O 123 L
2 Regally Ready Smith M E 118 L
3 Optimizer Saez L 118 L
4 Suggestive Boy (ARG) Talamo J 118 L
5 Za Approval Rosario J 118 L
6 Winning Prize (ARG) Nakatani C S 118 L
7 Horizontalyspeakin Maldonado E 118 L
8 Tom's Tribute Stevens G L 118 L
9 Silentio Bejarano R 118 L
10 Lakerville Desormeaux K J 118 L



9th (4:00) Santa Anita H. (G1)

1 1/4 Miles | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $750,000

1 Will Take Charge Saez (2-1) L 123
2 Mucho Macho Man Stevens G L (9-5) 124 L
3 Blingo Gryder A T (8-1) 117 L
4 Imperative Desormeaux K J (12-1) 114 L
5 Rousing Sermon Bejarano R 114 (12-1) L
6 American Blend Talamo J 114 (20-1) L
7 Game On Dude Smith M E 122 (5-2) L
8 Hear the Ghost Rosario J 114 (20-1) L

[Kasept]

BRIS SAN FELIPE PP'S: www.brisnet.com/brisnet_promos/14SanFelipe.pdf

[Alabama Stakes]

Do they play a nice 1991 version of Grateful Dead's China Doll when the hosses come on the track for that race ? Now that would be cool.

[Aly-Sheba]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

With all due respect to Jon White, I cannot see Game on Dude at 5-2 in this spot. I realize he'll still take a lot of money based on his reputation and overall record at Santa Anita, but isn't 5-1 more realistic? He just got drilled by Blingo for god sakes. And now add Will Take Charge and Mucho Macho Man to the mix.

If you listen to Jon White on Steve's show, he would rather have the odds lower, because he does not want to be embarrassed, if he makes a horses odds too high and it gets bet down and wins!! Mind Boggling IMO!!

Also I find it a disservice that he and Santa Anita wait so long to post morning line odds, because if you want to prints PP's out early, the horses numbers are not listed, only post position.

[pmayjr]

RPRettyboyFloyd was entered in a MSW as well over the weekend... good grief Denise, let the horse graduate before throwing him in with the big dogs.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

RPRettyboyFloyd was entered in a MSW as well over the weekend... good grief Denise, let the horse graduate before throwing him in with the big dogs.

No way he wins that MSW on Friday. Tough group.

[Duvalier]

Bayern supposedly scratching out of the San Felipe Saturday with a bruised inside quarter according to Bob Ike.

[pmayjr]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

No way he wins that MSW on Friday. Tough group.

Fine, but if he can't beat a salty group of MSWs, he shouldn't be running in the San Felipe.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

Fine, but if he can't beat a salty group of MSWs, he shouldn't be running in the San Felipe.

I totally agree. To be honest though, now that Bayern is out they might as well take a shot. He might be able to clunk up and hit the board again.

[theguarantee]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I totally agree. To be honest though, now that Bayern is out they might as well take a shot. He might be able to clunk up and hit the board again.

Bayern looked like a cinch to me. I thought Rprettyboyfloyd was the most intriguing alternative option. Maiden or not, he's only been beaten by quality. May appreciate the stretchout to two turns (hey - maybe he's a closing sprinter, I know)...and if you re-watch the San Vicente closely I think you'll be a bit intrigued (I was at least, we all watch races differently).

[pmayjr]

By the way,

I know I'm in the severe minority on this, but the competition in the Big Cap is likely to be tougher than the Dubai World Cup for Mucho Macho Man. If he loses Saturday his connections deserve to take crap for not shipping there.

I'm at work so if this starts debate, gimme a couple hours to reply.

[Jay Frederick]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

By the way,

I know I'm in the severe minority on this, but the competition in the Big Cap is likely to be tougher than the Dubai World Cup for Mucho Macho Man. If he loses Saturday his connections deserve to take crap for not shipping there.

I'm at work so if this starts debate, gimme a couple hours to reply.

The Big Cap is run at arguably his favorite course on a surface we know he handles. So how is the competition in the Dubai World Cup going to be softer, especially when you factor in the surface?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

By the way,

I know I'm in the severe minority on this, but the competition in the Big Cap is likely to be tougher than the Dubai World Cup for Mucho Macho Man. If he loses Saturday his connections deserve to take crap for not shipping there.

I'm at work so if this starts debate, gimme a couple hours to reply.

The level of competition is meaningless. Shipping him across the world to run on a surface he most likely can't handle is asinine, especially with the opportunity to add a race as prestigious as the Big Cap to his resume staring them in the face.

His connections deserve credit win or lose for keeping him home.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

By the way,

I know I'm in the severe minority on this, but the competition in the Big Cap is likely to be tougher than the Dubai World Cup for Mucho Macho Man. If he loses Saturday his connections deserve to take crap for not shipping there.

I'm at work so if this starts debate, gimme a couple hours to reply.

I am going to let this one go, since it's been awhile since you made a post like this.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

By the way,

I know I'm in the severe minority on this, but the competition in the Big Cap is likely to be tougher than the Dubai World Cup for Mucho Macho Man. If he loses Saturday his connections deserve to take crap for not shipping there.

I'm at work so if this starts debate, gimme a couple hours to reply.

do you have a stake in the dubai world cup?


how do you reconcile this:

Originally Posted by pmayjr

I really really really really really want you to be right. It's surreal to me that all the big timers are meeting for this race. What happened to every major horse ducking each other for the most part until November? I'm cheering for him to get back to the BC(and for Will Take Charge, Dude, etc), but I'm just really skeptical. Especially after an announced stud deal.

with you still kvetching about not going to dubai?

as for him having a boost to his stud resume with a win over synthetic (assuming he wins)...the move back to dirt in cali (and probably eventually all tracks again) completely belies any notion that synthetic ability is a bonus or that breeders will be looking for that when making a breeding decision.

for years people decried the big cap losing prestige (and the oaklawn handicap as well) because people chased the money halfway around the world.....i can't understand why you feel so strongly that would be the right move for this horse, especially knowing the overall successes, or lack thereof, for american horses since the surface change there.
competition is the key, and i'd imagine they are planning a campaign for horse of the year. a win here would be very significant for MMM. at dubai? not even close.
as for the purse there-money won is one thing, graded wins another. was HOY the last two years the top money earner?