Rainbow 6

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Maybe ridiculous was harsh. But if you use the chart call as some form of evidence, you will nearly always side with the stewards. It isn't conjecture if it is true. Funny you won't answer simple questions. I'm sure you've been digging for some charts that make a DQ look questionable. (Hint: you'll be looking for a while)

What questions won't I answer?

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What questions won't I answer?

You can re-read my posts as well as I can.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

You can re-read my posts as well as I can.

"Are you really going to pretend all chart callers do a good job?

"Do they really use all the camera angles available and still get the chart out in 15 minutes?"

"Do you think the opinion of the stewards can influence a chart caller?"



Question 1 has no good answer. I can't say that I know of any chart callers that do a bad job. I'm fairly certain if the GP chartcaller was not doing a good job we would have heard complaints.

Most chart callers have the ability to get the stewards view replays. It isnt rocket science.

I dont think stewards have any influence on chart callers. Why would they?

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

"Are you really going to pretend all chart callers do a good job?

"Do they really use all the camera angles available and still get the chart out in 15 minutes?"

"Do you think the opinion of the stewards can influence a chart caller?"



Question 1 has no good answer. I can't say that I know of any chart callers that do a bad job. I'm fairly certain if the GP chartcaller was not doing a good job we would have heard complaints.

Most chart callers have the ability to get the stewards view replays. It isnt rocket science.

I dont think stewards have any influence on chart callers. Why would they?

For one, I'll just say this, some are much better than others. That doesn't mean any are bad.

Charts come out way too quickly for me to believe there is a whole lot of replay checking going on, particularly from cameras not regularly shown.

Stewards are supposed to be experts. How could they not have influence? It isn't like these guys don't know each other either, and it is just human nature that it would be some influence.

In any case, it doesn't change what I said. Let me know the next time you see a chart where there is a questionable call and the chart caller disagrees, through his writing, with the stewards.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

For one, I'll just say this, some are much better than others. That doesn't mean any are bad.

Charts come out way too quickly for me to believe there is a whole lot of replay checking going on, particularly from cameras not regularly shown.

Stewards are supposed to be experts. How could they not have influence? It isn't like these guys don't know each other either, and it is just human nature that it would be some influence.

In any case, it doesn't change what I said. Let me know the next time you see a chart where there is a questionable call and the chart caller disagrees, through his writing, with the stewards.

I used to do charts at Yonkers for Sportseye way back when. Once you get the hang of it, the process doesnt take much time at all to do and most time consuming part was transcribing info onto carbon paper. I'm sure with computer programs it is far easier. I used to call the calls into a small tape recorder and used to check the replay to make sure it was accurate. Some of the more experienced guys were far faster than me and it rarely took me more than 15 mins. As for the comments how long would they take to do? About as long as it takes to type a paragraph except for Leo Tolstoy who works the NYRA circuit.

Not to mention that with computers you have the ability to go back an correct an error that you might recheck later.

As for Stewards being experts...

There are some really good stewards who do a good job.
There are some really mediocre stewards that just mail it in.
There some flaming idiots.

Let's just say the numbers arent split evenly