Discreet Cat's Beyer was a 115

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Stud they DON'T run as many miles as you would think at the highest level.
They run the Gotham(other than Easy Goer, three year olds don't approach that mark that early in the season, and yes I remember the day EAsy Goer ran his race and the track was just as fast, if not faster).
The Westchester is run each year, but thats not a grade one and doesn't draw grade one milers.
The only big mile race thats run at Aqueduct for elders is the Cigar, formerly the NYRA mile.

you're right on that. i stand corrected. still hung over from woodbine/maple leafs game marathon. still wish DC had gone a click faster!

Originally Posted by SentToStud

you're right on that. i stand corrected. still hung over from woodbine/maple leafs game marathon. still wish DC had gone a click faster!

Honestly? I would have wished the same thing had the track been at all near reality.
My bitterness about that track stemmed from the 3rd race.
I didn't play much Meadowlands this year because I've told you I'm not a nighttime bettor. But one Saturday night I played a big pik-3 and needed Bark Dust at 3-5 to wrap it up. It was a 5 1/2 furlong race and he was putrid, being defeated with no excuses by a Charles Town shipper, I **** you not.

To watch him go 7F in 1:21:4 wire to wire, well, that was an indication to me that the track was so incredibly fast as to be stupid.
Look at his pp's, can't beat a CT shipper at the Meadowlands with no excuses in a 5 1/2 furlong race yet he can go 7F on Saturday in 1:21:4? Please.
At that point times became irrelevant to me on that card, all you could do is base evaluation of winners on the way they accomplished the win.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Honestly? I would have wished the same thing had the track been at all near reality.
My bitterness about that track stemmed from the 3rd race.
I didn't play much Meadowlands this year because I've told you I'm not a nighttime bettor. But one Saturday night I played a big pik-3 and needed Bark Dust at 3-5 to wrap it up. It was a 5 1/2 furlong race and he was putrid, being defeated with no excuses by a Charles Town shipper, I **** you not.

To watch him go 7F in 1:21:4 wire to wire, well, that was an indication to me that the track was so incredibly fast as to be stupid.
Look at his pp's, can't beat a CT shipper at the Meadowlands with no excuses in a 5 1/2 furlong race yet he can go 7F on Saturday in 1:21:4? Please.At that point times became irrelevant to me on that card, all you could do is base evaluation of winners on the way they accomplished the win.

Look who he's trained by...

Honestly, I think they lowballed this Beyer. I got a 129 on my figures (highest of the year.) That's about a 121 Beyer equivalent. The other races fell in line with this number, the winner/2nd/3rd was +- 2 lengths of their last at this number. In the Cigar itself, even Sharp Humor ran back dead on to his last even though he was beaten 13 lengths.

Does anybody know what they gave the Demoiselle winner? I got the figure I had in my mind going in and once again, it was terrible. This is one awful group of 2YO fillies.

[blackthroatedwind]

The Westchester is the opening day feature at Belmont and has been for quite a few years now. Najran ( I think that's his name) set a track record in winning it a few years ago.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by philcski

Look who he's trained by...

Honestly, I think they lowballed this Beyer. I got a 129 on my figures (highest of the year.) That's about a 121 Beyer equivalent. The other races fell in line with this number, the winner/2nd/3rd was +- 2 lengths of their last at this number. In the Cigar itself, even Sharp Humor ran back dead on to his last even though he was beaten 13 lengths.

Does anybody know what they gave the Demoiselle winner? I got the figure I had in my mind going in and once again, it was terrible. This is one awful group of 2YO fillies.

I think he gave the Demoiselle an 84.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I think he gave the Demoiselle an 84.

Thanks, I had it a little lower (about a 79). I'm trying to figure out how they split the variant because they must have to get these numbers...