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Old 01-18-2014, 11:15 PM
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Can someone explain the vote count? MMM is listed 2nd but appears to have more "points" than WD. Or is this really just a question of first place votes?

Eclipse Awards voters cast their ballots to rank the top three horses and individuals in each Championship division on a 10-5-1 point system basis. Eclipse Award winners are determined by first-place votes only.


Why even have a point system if first place votes ONLY count towards winning?
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Old 01-19-2014, 02:33 AM
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Next year I'm buying Dan LeBatard's vote, leaving the ballot blank except voting for myself as champion breeder and Dee Tee stable as owner and some miscellaneous filly sprinter for Steeplechase champion just to see if anyone is paying attention.

It is ridiculous that 249 people are voting on these awards considering the large number of qualified people who dont have a vote and the fact that the number of actual full time media members that deserve a vote is about 10% of the total.

Yeah in the end it doesnt matter that much, virtually no one outside of racing cares and a large majority of people in racing dont much care either but this is an easy fix and doesnt require any govt approval or contractual agreements.
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Old 01-19-2014, 02:36 AM
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I'm also going to name a horse Abstain just to confuse the issue further
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Old 01-19-2014, 03:05 AM
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I only have a problem with Javier winning the jockey award, it should of been Mike Smith or Gary Stevens. Those two elevated the importance of being a jockey, while Javier showed us how to lose races on favorites and Normandy Invasion to name a few. JR got hurt too so that basically gave him the Pletcher aces too by default along with his Chad Brown and Shug horses
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Old 01-20-2014, 01:04 PM
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I only have a problem with Javier winning the jockey award, it should of been Mike Smith or Gary Stevens. Those two elevated the importance of being a jockey, while Javier showed us how to lose races on favorites and Normandy Invasion to name a few. JR got hurt too so that basically gave him the Pletcher aces too by default along with his Chad Brown and Shug horses
So whichever rider is lucky enough to obtain top quality mounts on a consistent basis is undeserving of an eclipse award...
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Old 01-20-2014, 01:52 PM
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So whichever rider is lucky enough to obtain top quality mounts on a consistent basis is undeserving of an eclipse award...
Obtaining high quality mounts is not a "luck" thing, its actually a very important part of being a world class jockey (and agent).
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Old 01-20-2014, 09:06 PM
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Obtaining high quality mounts is not a "luck" thing, its actually a very important part of being a world class jockey (and agent).
Really? I thought they just selected the riders randomly...
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