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Old 01-15-2014, 10:19 AM
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They added one starter in Lopez, and Mo Williams off the bench. The other 4 starters were there last year. The Blazers got off to a great start, out playing expectations going 18-6 against the number. Since? 3-10 ATS. Its a long season, and teams who are in the bottom half of FG % defense don't usually last long in the post season.
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Old 01-15-2014, 10:27 AM
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They added one starter in Lopez, and Mo Williams off the bench. The other 4 starters were there last year. The Blazers got off to a great start, out playing expectations going 18-6 against the number. Since? 3-10 ATS. Its a long season, and teams who are in the bottom half of FG % defense don't usually last long in the post season.
You said the team who closed out the season at 0-13 last year. Aldridge, Batum and Matthews missed a lot of those games. When you have Claver, Barton and Meyers Leonard starting during that stretch with the bench they had...what do you expect them to finish? They aren't a top team right now but they're certainly way better than the team that finished last season with the 13 game losing streak. Their bench is much improved over last year's disaster. I agree with you, the defense has been horrible...that has to get fixed.
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Old 01-15-2014, 12:54 PM
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They added one starter in Lopez, and Mo Williams off the bench. The other 4 starters were there last year. The Blazers got off to a great start, out playing expectations going 18-6 against the number. Since? 3-10 ATS. Its a long season, and teams who are in the bottom half of FG % defense don't usually last long in the post season.
They have some issues but again as a 1st round opponent they are not a team that you'd like to see. Plus they might have been doing a lot of tanking last year when it became apparent they werent going anywhere.

Put it this way the East 6 seed is looking at Atlanta 1st round. Without Horford Atl is probably a sub .500 team.
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Old 01-15-2014, 12:58 PM
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Golden State has somehow shrugged off the PG1985 curse and acquired a nice piece while giving up very little.

Jordan Crawford to GSW, Toney Douglass to Miami and Joel Anthony and draft picks to Boston.

Great trade for GS, good move for Miami as Douglass gives them depth and they save 10 million getting rid of a guy that doesnt play and Boston stockpiles more picks. Seemingly a win, win, win.
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Old 01-15-2014, 02:11 PM
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I must say you guys are quite entertaining and provide some pretty good information and insight.
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Old 01-15-2014, 05:51 PM
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Golden State has somehow shrugged off the PG1985 curse and acquired a nice piece while giving up very little.

Jordan Crawford to GSW, Toney Douglass to Miami and Joel Anthony and draft picks to Boston.

Great trade for GS, good move for Miami as Douglass gives them depth and they save 10 million getting rid of a guy that doesnt play and Boston stockpiles more picks. Seemingly a win, win, win.
I'm not a mush. All I said before the season was I prefer Houston and Golden St in a wide open West. Its in this thread.
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Old 01-15-2014, 05:54 PM
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I'm not a mush. All I said before the season was I prefer Houston and Golden St in a wide open West.
Golden State is a lot closer than Houston now. I really like this trade for them.
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Old 01-15-2014, 05:59 PM
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Golden State is a lot closer than Houston now. I really like this trade for them.
I like it too. And its not a panic type thing, it comes right during a pretty great run by them.
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Old 01-15-2014, 06:08 PM
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I like it too. And its not a panic type thing, it comes right during a pretty great run by them.
They gave up nothing of note and got back a pretty good player in Crawford. I dont know if they will keep Brooks or send him to the D league but he was an interesting guy a few years ago that Avery Johnson just buried and he has never really recovered.
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Old 01-15-2014, 08:50 PM
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The Blazers got off to a great start, out playing expectations going 18-6 against the number. Since? 3-10 ATS.
They weren't playing as well when Stotts started messing with the rotation at about that time, giving Leonard minutes...he's pretty much clueless out there but he's a project. It was sort of a given after the kind of start they had the lines would be adjusted somewhat too.

The Blazers and Pistons OVER/UNDER records are really weighted to going over and show the deficiencies on the defensive end those two teams have...27-10 and 28-10. The Pistons have a lot more problems they need to get figured out too along with the D. I'd have to think the O/U's will start getting evened out once the lines get adjusted even more. They did start putting them above 200 a lot more towards the end of December

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Old 01-16-2014, 07:04 AM
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38 games into their season and the Phoenix Suns have already gone over their posted O/U total of 21 games.
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Old 01-16-2014, 08:48 AM
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They weren't playing as well when Stotts started messing with the rotation at about that time, giving Leonard minutes...he's pretty much clueless out there but he's a project. It was sort of a given after the kind of start they had the lines would be adjusted somewhat too.

The Blazers and Pistons OVER/UNDER records are really weighted to going over and show the deficiencies on the defensive end those two teams have...27-10 and 28-10. The Pistons have a lot more problems they need to get figured out too along with the D. I'd have to think the O/U's will start getting evened out once the lines get adjusted even more. They did start putting them above 200 a lot more towards the end of December
They certainly adjusted the Blazers' team power ratings. Portland was actually 8-5 SU in that 3-10 ATS slide. But it appears the totals power ratings still haven't caught up. Like you said, eventually they will.
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Old 01-16-2014, 09:30 AM
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Just when you think you've read it all.......I scan this thread and see that Greg Oden is going to "secure another Championship for Miami" if he stays healthy.


Euf madone.
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Old 01-16-2014, 10:07 AM
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Just when you think you've read it all.......I scan this thread and see that Greg Oden is going to "secure another Championship for Miami" if he stays healthy.


Euf madone.
Where's you're opinion on anything??
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Old 01-16-2014, 10:18 AM
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Where's you're opinion on anything??
Lol
I gave my opinion on Eric Bledsoe after you mushed him and he must've missed it.


Your opinions are one step higher than dog sh!t. So much so, that it's hard to fathom that half of the crap you post is truly how you feel.

and ps -- my opinions are good enough to have my bookie hating on my money line plays every week. Ya know, the opposite of your self-imposed $2000 mythical limit! I made more on the Sixers 3 game stretch against DEN, SAC, & POR than you will all year betting basketball, and that's a stone cold fact!
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Old 01-16-2014, 01:03 PM
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Oden says he's feeling good. He will be crucial against the Pacers.
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