2013-2014 NBA Season

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

He had an excellent series against SA in the Western Conference Finals the same year - 49% shooting, 18.5 PPG. Hell, his numbers for those playoffs altogether were strong - 44% FG, 41% 3PG and 16.3 PPG.

According to PG1985 only the Finals and championships count. He was one of the chief reasons that OKC floundered in the Finals. His games 3 and 4 were awful.

Interestingly during the playoffs that year his best games were all in losses.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

According to PG1985 only the Finals and championships count. He was one of the chief reasons that OKC floundered in the Finals. His games 3 and 4 were awful.

Interestingly during the playoffs that year his best games were all in losses.

OKC floundered because they ran into a better team. A team with 2 first ballot Hall of Famers, you and I both agree Bosh will be, and Ray Allen is first ballot. Plus Lebron is the best ever. They just played a better team. It was not Hardens fault.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

OKC floundered because they ran into a better team. A team with 2 first ballot Hall of Famers, you and I both agree Bosh will be, and Ray Allen is first ballot. Plus Lebron is the best ever. They just played a better team. It was not Hardens fault.

Ray Allen wasn't on that team.

See my post to Chuck. People act like Miami steamrolled OKC, when that is very far from the truth.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Ray Allen wasn't on that team.

See my post to Chuck. People act like Miami steamrolled OKC, when that is very far from the truth.

Of course they didnt steamroll them OKC won game 1. Miami was the better team though, no? Maybe not much better, but Lebron was the X factor.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Of course they didnt steamroll them OKC won game 1. Miami was the better team though, no? Maybe not much better, but Lebron was the X factor.

Lebron was Lebron, but what did the Thunder in was all the role players that seemingly could not miss a 3. Miller, Battier, Chalmers...

Like I said, every game except G5 came right down to the wire, and in games 3/4 Harden shot like 20%.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

OKC floundered because they ran into a better team. A team with 2 first ballot Hall of Famers, you and I both agree Bosh will be, and Ray Allen is first ballot. Plus Lebron is the best ever. They just played a better team. It was not Hardens fault.

Miami was the better team but in 3 of the 5 games Harden played poorly.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

According to PG1985 only the Finals and championships count. He was one of the chief reasons that OKC floundered in the Finals. His games 3 and 4 were awful.

Interestingly during the playoffs that year his best games were all in losses.

Most of his best games with the Rockets seem to come in losses as well. He is very selfish in close games, and aside from his defense, it is his biggest shortcoming.

The thought that championships are the only way to measure someone historically is the single dumbest thing in sports.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The thought that championships are the only way to measure someone historically is the single dumbest thing in sports.

It all started with Wilt and Russell. Russell was a great, great player but without the genius of Red Auerbach no one in 2014 thinks he was better than Wilt. Lot of those Celtics are in the hall of fame because they played on Boston and not Detroit or Cincinnati

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

According to PG1985 only the Finals and championships count. He was one of the chief reasons that OKC floundered in the Finals. His games 3 and 4 were awful.

Interestingly during the playoffs that year his best games were all in losses.

People forget how close all those games were until Game 5. Harden killed the Thunder in 3 and 4. Average games by him and they probably win one or both. Pretty sure he was bad in the Game 1 too, and then had the nerve to complain about his playing time and number of shots in the locker room after a victory. He didn't make many friends that day.