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Old 01-06-2014, 09:47 AM
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I guess Christian Laettner should be upgraded becaue he won gold on the original Dream Team. Anthony is a great player. Never said he's wasn't. But a big part of his scoring so much is his number of shots. I believe there are plenty of guys that could score as much given the same free reign to shoot. I do like that he's upped his rebounding this year, because it shows growth. And I understand that he won a title in college so he can win. I'm not one of those that says he will never win in the NBA. But I don't think he brings the same uniqueness as a Griffin does to a team. He'll get you a few more points but at a big cost. He'll disrupt the offensive flow, he'll take shots away from guys, he won't play defense, and he'll need to be the star. He goes against all that Doc Rivers has been preaching to them. He is also like James and Bryant in the sense that he does his best work with the ball, dribbling and seeking areas to attack and that takes the ball out of your best player's hand too much. In addition to all that, Griffin is younger, harder to replace, is locked up under contract, and doesn't have the personality that clashes with Paul. Losing him for Anthony significantly weakens them.
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Old 01-06-2014, 11:52 AM
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I guess Christian Laettner should be upgraded becaue he won gold on the original Dream Team. Anthony is a great player. Never said he's wasn't. But a big part of his scoring so much is his number of shots. I believe there are plenty of guys that could score as much given the same free reign to shoot. I do like that he's upped his rebounding this year, because it shows growth. And I understand that he won a title in college so he can win. I'm not one of those that says he will never win in the NBA. But I don't think he brings the same uniqueness as a Griffin does to a team. He'll get you a few more points but at a big cost. He'll disrupt the offensive flow, he'll take shots away from guys, he won't play defense, and he'll need to be the star. He goes against all that Doc Rivers has been preaching to them. He is also like James and Bryant in the sense that he does his best work with the ball, dribbling and seeking areas to attack ad that takes the ball out of your best player's hand too much. In addition to all that, Griffin is younger, harder to replace, is locked up under contract, and doesn't have the personality that clashes with Paul. Losing him for Anthony significantly weakens them.
Oh ok. I'm sure there are a ton of guys that could score like Carmelo Anthony. they all just choose not to...

You obviously rarely watch Anthony play because if you did you'd realize what you said was basically PG1985 First take talking points nonsense. He wont "disrupt" the offensive flow with Paul on the team. Why is this not apparent? He takes 4 shots a game more than Griffin but plays more minutes on a team with virtually no other good offensive options. Why act like he is going to come in and shoot the ball 30 times? It just isnt true. He does play defense but is exposed guarding 3's. He is a pretty good post defender. He already is a star but coming to LA he would surely see that Paul runs the show. He played very well at the Olympics coming off the bench. Anthony can be extremely effective in an offense with a strong PG and perimeter shooting which is something that he has never had the luxury of having.

Griffin is a really good player but outside of athleticism has no elite skill. His offense is still raw, he is a good rebounder but not great. His defense is ordinary at best. He is a weak FT shooter. He needs playmakes to play off of which the Knicks do not have. This essentially is a bad short term trade for NY but they need to blow the current team up and start over again and griffin would be a good piece. The Clippers are a lot more dangerous with Carmelo than Griffin in 2014.

I know who Chris Paul would rather have...
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Old 01-06-2014, 03:35 PM
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one interesting stat they gave out on the game they just lost the other night was that carmelo is 1 for his last 18 on possible game winning shots
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Old 01-07-2014, 12:32 AM
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Bulls pull off great trade grabbing cap space, a number 1 pick and 2 second rounders for 1/2 season of Deng in a season where they clearly arent contenders.
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Old 01-07-2014, 02:57 AM
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Bulls pull off great trade grabbing cap space, a number 1 pick and 2 second rounders for 1/2 season of Deng in a season where they clearly arent contenders.
Giving up the picks was insane and it pretty much is now a done deal that Lebron wont even consider going back there.
They can contend to be the 3rd best team in the East, for whatever thats worth.
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Old 01-07-2014, 10:45 AM
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one interesting stat they gave out on the game they just lost the other night was that carmelo is 1 for his last 18 on possible game winning shots
The percentage on players hitting those shots, even superstars, is not nearly as high as most people believe. You should check out Chauncy "Big Shot" Billups some time. His percentage was awful. People remember the makes, they forget the misses.
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Old 01-07-2014, 06:13 PM
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The percentage on players hitting those shots, even superstars, is not nearly as high as most people believe. You should check out Chauncy "Big Shot" Billups some time. His percentage was awful. People remember the makes, they forget the misses.

Convenient. But when it was LeBron it was a huge deal?
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Old 01-08-2014, 08:20 AM
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Convenient. But when it was LeBron it was a huge deal?
Everything with Lebron is a big deal in the media.
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Old 01-08-2014, 09:17 AM
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Cleveland now 2 1/2 games out of the last playoff spot. Deng makes them better on both sides of the ball. Laughable how bad the East is. As big of a dichotemy as I've ever seen, between East and West.
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Old 01-09-2014, 09:12 PM
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Surprisingly great game right now between Knicks and Heat. As I type Jesus Shuttlesworth goes for a 4 point play.
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Old 01-10-2014, 07:36 PM
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Holy ****. Great great 1st quarter.
Joe Johnson has 22
Lebron has 16
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Old 01-07-2014, 06:55 PM
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The percentage on players hitting those shots, even superstars, is not nearly as high as most people believe. You should check out Chauncy "Big Shot" Billups some time. His percentage was awful. People remember the makes, they forget the misses.
You need these to hit those kind of shots

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