BEYER: Mucho Man Man an unconvential Horse of Year

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I agree with Beyer on this one. I have no argument that Mucho Macho Man is hardly an ideal choice, but he is a better one than Wise Dan, whose on track performances this year, overall, are significantly worse than his races in 2012.

Wise Dan was campaigned like a champion boxer that tried to bob and weave his way through a title defense. At the very least, he could not afford even a single blip, and that ended up not being the case.

I don't love Wise Dan, but I can't pick a horse that was 2 for 5 with 2 losses in races that weren't even graded. I'd take Will Take Charge before I took Mucho Macho Man.

[randallscott35]

Wise Dan. Not even close.

[FATPIANO]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Wise Dan. Not even close.

DITTO

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I don't love Wise Dan, but I can't pick a horse that was 2 for 5 with 2 losses in races that weren't even graded. I'd take Will Take Charge before I took Mucho Macho Man.

Was the BCC in the top 5 of 10f figs for 2013?

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Was the BCC in the top 5 of 10f figs for 2013?

I'm not sure off the top of my head, but big competitive fields rarely lead to big figures these days.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I'm not sure off the top of my head, but big competitive fields rarely lead to big figures these days.

my point is...Shouldnt HoY be a fast horse? Especially considering he won all of 2 races in a 5 race campaign. There is an augment to be made that the BCC is the championship race and if the Championship is not awarded to the victory then is it s genuine Championship

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by freddymo

my point is...Shouldnt HoY be a fast horse? Especially considering he won all of 2 races in a 5 race campaign. There is an augment to be made that the BCC is the championship race and if the Championship is not awarded to the victory then is it s genuine Championship

I'll be the first to say speed figures can be subjective. I think it should be about accomplishments.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by freddymo

my point is...Shouldnt HoY be a fast horse? Especially considering he won all of 2 races in a 5 race campaign. There is an augment to be made that the BCC is the championship race and if the Championship is not awarded to the victory then is it s genuine Championship

the bcc isn't the championship race. i don't care what they called the thing, it's not the superbowl of racing.

you win the bcc, you get a trophy and a check. if we give hoy to the bcc winner, then i guess we give top 3 yo to the ky derby winner?

sorry, i disagree. the racing season isn't encapsulated in one race. i don't like when a euro comes over, wins the bc turf and leaves with top turfer either.

it's horse of the year, not horse of one race. no way mucho macho man should be hoy, not based on his body of work this year.