Lasix again

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

And I'm just saying if it is the best we have, it might not be worth having.

While I'm sure Lasix is far from the only reason the sport is in constant decline, I do think it is a reason. And a lot smarter people than me think so too.

better to have lasix to treat a bleeder, than to just have bleeders. some horses bleed thru-how much worse would those incidents be without lasix? and i think many put their horses on it because it's not construed as dangerous, and because there's no way to know ahead of time that a bleeding episode is coming.

as for lasix causing a decline in the sport-i've had conversations over the years with people about racing. not one has ever said 'well, i don't follow it due to meds/lasix'. they just aren't into the sport. and knowing how casual so many people are regarding drugs and people, i have a hard time believing that many folks give much thought to it in racing. people who don't follow racing don't really know about medications, and why they're given. they don't care either, because they aren't into the sport to begin with. it's like the tour de france...it's not the only bike race, but it's the only one most people know. lance armstrong isn't the only guy busted in that sport, but he's probably the only guy people could name-because they don't follow the sport.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

better to have lasix to treat a bleeder, than to just have bleeders. some horses bleed thru-how much worse would those incidents be without lasix? and i think many put their horses on it because it's not construed as dangerous, and because there's no way to know ahead of time that a bleeding episode is coming.

as for lasix causing a decline in the sport-i've had conversations over the years with people about racing. not one has ever said 'well, i don't follow it due to meds/lasix'. they just aren't into the sport. and knowing how casual so many people are regarding drugs and people, i have a hard time believing that many folks give much thought to it in racing. people who don't follow racing don't really know about medications, and why they're given. they don't care either, because they aren't into the sport to begin with. it's like the tour de france...it's not the only bike race, but it's the only one most people know. lance armstrong isn't the only guy busted in that sport, but he's probably the only guy people could name-because they don't follow the sport.

No one likes lawyers until they need one. No one likes drugs until they need them.

I never thought that the animal rights people would have the ability to take on racing down by ging head on because essentially they are radicals and people in general dont trust radicals. However what they have done is infected the sport from within by demonizing "drugs" (that cant rightly defend themselves) and pushing the agenda where every possible negative side effect is spotlighted. That is how lasix is called part of the decline of the sport and morons on the internet are pontificating that thyrol-L is causing one trainers horses to croak. The entire anti-lasix/drug cartel has been led by a small group of breeders who teamed with Congressmen Whitfield and his Humane Society connected wife to start this campaign.

There is a segment of this industry that believes in some nonsensical rise from the ashes like the Phoenix theory that needs racing to be torn down in order to build it back up. I believe that once racing is sufficiently torn down it will just remain torn down. You have a tricky situation in NY with NYRA that could easily go bad, CA racing is in disarray, IL racing faces doomsday seemingly every year. KY racing is surrounded by racinos whose existence 10 years from now is questionable but have managed to damage KY. Racing in Texas is still very minor league. Racing in PA has started to decline already. NJ has essentially one track without a really rich benefactor. The future of MD and FL racing is fuzzy without knowing what Magna's post Frank plan is.

Any young people getting into racing as a career choice should probably learn a 2nd language.

[RockHardTen1985]

Since May, I take Lasix daily. It makes me piss. I guess I just dont get all the fuss about this.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Since May, I take Lasix daily. It makes me piss. I guess I just dont get all the fuss about this.

thus illustrating my point exactly.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Since May, I take Lasix daily. It makes me piss. I guess I just dont get all the fuss about this.

Your posts have improved 20 beyer points since May. The answer is now revealed.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Your posts have improved 20 beyer points since May. The answer is now revealed.

And if he were treated by Jacobson's vet, they would likely improve another 20 points.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

And if he were treated by Jacobson's vet, they would likely improve another 20 points.

What are you suggesting? LOL

[Danzig]

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...up-lasix-study

they said that eiph was worse in horses treated-were they being given lasix due to previous bleeding? would the bleeding be worse without being treated?

how useful is this study, since it's limited in scope? they said it was more observation than science-so what was their motive?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

And if he were treated by Jacobson's vet, they would likely improve another 20 points.

So is the consensus that Jacobsen is a cheater? I certainly think he is. I hate when people say “ he just moves horses up to their good races, or back to their best” Why cant everyone do it then?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

And if he were treated by Jacobson's vet, they would likely improve another 20 points.

I dont know, I think he might have maxed out. Maybe if Oscar rose from the dead and placed his magic tongue ties or whatever he claimed was his "secret".

God I wish at the peak of his powers Oscar Barrera could come back for about 6 months just to see the internet go completely nuclear.

[Cannon Shell]

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