Article about the alleged "safety net"

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i was flipping stations on the radio a few weeks back, and stumbled across a debate. then i found it was on afr (i can't stand the american family assoc). the people talking (it turns out, not much of a debate, they all were on the same side) were all railing against obamacare. which led me to wonder....

how does the party supposedly so religious, begrudge charity towards the poor? doesn't that stance clash with their so called christian values? they wear bracelets saying wwjd....well, i doubt jesus would be against medical care for the poor.
but, i'm sure the neocons can explain it and justify it.

I'd love to hear a sane, lucid, thought-provoking answer to this. You would think that somebody could provide one.

It's funny actually, only 4 gospels in the bible actually document his life, and in those 4 books you'd think, as these Christians spout, all he ever gave a crap about was making sure 2 dudes didn't get married, and that you didn't heave stones at your girlfriend/wife's gut to end a pregnancy.


The reality is that he never mentioned homosexuality or ending a pregnancy one single time.

What he did discussed at length however, was that you treat everyone with the same respect and dignity "for what you do to the least you do to me" and to be very weary and fearful of the ultra-wealthy "The love of money above all is the root of evil."

I'd be willing to bet that there is going to be a lot of disappointed "Christians" when they finally get to meet him.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

The reality is that he never mentioned homosexuality or ending a pregnancy one single time.

What he did discussed at length however, was that you treat everyone with the same respect and dignity "for what you do to the least you do to me" and to be very weary and fearful of the ultra-wealthy "The love of money above all is the root of evil."

Well I'm pretty sure He would not be for legalized abortion. Those unborn qualify in that statement "for what you do to the least you do to me".

And if he didn't address two dudes getting married as you put it, he also didn't address insider trading, gun control, drunk driving and a lot of other things that have come up over the last 2000 years.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Well I'm pretty sure He would not be for legalized abortion. Those unborn qualify in that statement "for what you do to the least you do to me".

And if he didn't address two dudes getting married as you put it, he also didn't address insider trading, gun control, drunk driving and a lot of other things that have come up over the last 2000 years.

which is why society institutes laws. people like to say that all laws come from the bible, but they don't. or that we can't have morals if we don't go to church or are atheist, also false.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Danzig

which is why society institutes laws. people like to say that all laws come from the bible, but they don't. or that we can't have morals if we don't go to church or are atheist, also false.

I made no such assertion. There were written laws going back to the Assyrians and the Code of Hammurabi. Which nobody would want to live under but did ensure there were no second offenders to crimes.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

I made no such assertion. There were written laws going back to the Assyrians and the Code of Hammurabi. Which nobody would want to live under but did ensure there were no second offenders to crimes.

it was a general comment, not directed to you specifically in regards to laws.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

people like to say that all laws come from the bible, but they don't. .

Especially seatbelt laws.