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Old 12-07-2013, 08:37 PM
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Little Mike is being offered at 14/1 on Betfair. King Kreesa is currently being offered at 64/1.
Don't think I'd take triple those odds on either one.
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Old 12-07-2013, 10:28 PM
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Don't think I'd take triple those odds on either one.
You seriously wouldn't take a little bit of 31-1 on Little Mike? Really. Not at all? That's his price on the tote right now.
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Old 12-07-2013, 10:29 PM
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Current odds for HK Cup with $200k in the pools

Cirrus Des Aigles is 11-1
Little Mike is 31-1
Side Glance is 32-1
Grandeur is 35-1
Military Attack is 9-5
Akeed Mofeed is 2-1
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Old 12-07-2013, 10:30 PM
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Current odds for Hong Kong Vase, with a bunch of internationals...

Filly never first past post, Ebiyza, is 14-1...Dunaden is 15-1 (won this race in 2011).

The Fugue is 2-1
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Old 12-07-2013, 10:43 PM
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listening to the audio (because that's how I party on a Sat night... when it's below zero in Minnesota) and the quality is clean. The analysts seem to be very knowledgeable, but it's kinda fun listening to the international terminology and lingo being slightly different than ours.

How have I never heard of Zac Purton before?
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Old 12-08-2013, 04:15 AM
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Little Mike managed to beat 3 horses home. King Kresa managed to beat two horses home.

Even though none of them finished better than 9th place, it was most delightful to read of the European horses struggling...and race after race going to Asia based horses.

Our grass horses and grass racing remains 3rd rate at best. This fact is proven every single year in Dubai...where grass horses from Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia, all ship and win...while our horses are starting to flirt with going a combined 0-for-100.

We did absolutely dominate on dirt, in Dubai.
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Old 12-08-2013, 08:12 AM
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Our grass horses and grass racing remains 3rd rate at best. This fact is proven every single year in Dubai...where grass horses from Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia, all ship and win...while our horses are starting to flirt with going a combined 0-for-100.

We did absolutely dominate on dirt, in Dubai.
So long as dirt racing is the primary focus of racing in this country, our top horses race on dirt. Our top grass males are typically imports or American-bred horses that didn't make it on dirt. Not that it is a predictor of success on turf, but the following are top class dirt runners who were turf bred and have become leading "grass sires": Lemon Drop Kid, Smart Strike, Ghostzapper, Rock Hard Ten, Medaglia d'Oro, Arch, More Than Ready and Hard Spun.

Even a Hall of Famer like Lure was not tried on turf until short-priced defeats in the Lexington and Riva Ridge in the spring of his 3YO season. This past year, it would have been interesting with his pedigree to have seen Verrazano (by More Than Ready from a good Alexander female family) tried on turf; I would not be surprised to see him become a useful turf sire down the road.
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Old 12-08-2013, 08:23 AM
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Little Mike managed to beat 3 horses home. King Kresa managed to beat two horses home.

Even though none of them finished better than 9th place, it was most delightful to read of the European horses struggling...and race after race going to Asia based horses.

Our grass horses and grass racing remains 3rd rate at best. This fact is proven every single year in Dubai...where grass horses from Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia, all ship and win...while our horses are starting to flirt with going a combined 0-for-100.

We did absolutely dominate on dirt, in Dubai.
Little Mike was only beaten 3 3/4L...King Kreesa was beaten over 11. Big difference, IMO.
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