Discreet and the Cigar

randallscott35 · #1 11-25-2006, 10:21 AM

What are you expecting today? Its the last race I'm looking forward to this year, and said as much after the Cup.

My feeling is Discreet is currently the best dirt horse in training in the world as strange as that sounds to some. I'm hoping he proves it today with a phenomenal performance. If not, I'll be wrong.

ateamstupid · #2 11-25-2006, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

What are you expecting today? Its the last race I'm looking forward to this year, and said as much after the Cup.

My feeling is Discreet is currently the best dirt horse in training in the world as strange as that sounds to some. I'm hoping he proves it today with a phenomenal performance. If not, I'll be wrong.

It doesn't matter what he does. We'll get the same people whining about who he didn't beat whether he wins by one length or twenty.

randallscott35 · #3 11-25-2006, 10:40 AM

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It doesn't matter what he does. We'll get the same people whining about who he didn't beat whether he wins by one length or twenty.

Joe Joe, it matters to me. It matters to me.

ateamstupid · #4 11-25-2006, 10:43 AM

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Joe Joe, it matters to me. It matters to me.

Me too.. I'm just telling you, don't expect it to matter to any of these people.. They'll be too busy complaining about who isn't running to appreciate who is.

I think DC is the fastest horse in the universe now that Bernardini's gone, and even when Bernardini was around I always said I thought DC might be faster anyway.

I'm looking forward to it.

#5 11-25-2006, 10:47 AM

You're either with ateam or against him.

He'll win easy today.

randallscott35 · #6 11-25-2006, 10:48 AM

Discreet/Badge Exacta. 200 times. Won't pay worth a damn but that's it for me.

randallscott35 · #7 11-25-2006, 02:56 PM

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Discreet/Badge Exacta. 200 times. Won't pay worth a damn but that's it for me.

Simply put, the best horse in the nation. hand ride.

ArlJim78 · #8 11-25-2006, 10:51 AM

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Me too.. I'm just telling you, don't expect it to matter to any of these people.. They'll be too busy complaining about who isn't running to appreciate who is.

I think DC is the fastest horse in the universe now that Bernardini's gone, and even when Bernardini was around I always said I thought DC might be faster anyway.

I'm looking forward to it.

If Discreet Cat once agains destroys the field, there won't be much anyone can argue about in terms of is he the fastest horse in the world. It would be hard to argue for another horse. And there is nothing soft about todays competition.

The only remaining thing that I would want to see are some races from him at two turn classic distances.

ateamstupid · #9 11-25-2006, 10:52 AM

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If Discreet Cat once agains destroys the field, there won't be much anyone can argue about in terms of is he the fastest horse in the world. It would be hard to argue for another horse. And there is nothing soft about todays competition.

The only remaining thing that I would want to see are some races from him at two turn classic distances.

Same here.

kentuckyrosesinmay · #10 11-25-2006, 11:13 AM

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Me too.. I'm just telling you, don't expect it to matter to any of these people.. They'll be too busy complaining about who isn't running to appreciate who is.

I think DC is the fastest horse in the universe now that Bernardini's gone, and even when Bernardini was around I always said I thought DC might be faster anyway.

I'm looking forward to it.

I share the same thoughts as you and Randall do. Discreet Cat wins for fun here today.

hockey2315 · #11 11-25-2006, 12:40 PM

Discreet Cat wins for fun if he gets to the lead early. . . the speed bias at AQU is absolutely ridiculous today. . . I hope it's gone by the Cigar. . .

ELA · #12 11-25-2006, 11:01 AM

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It doesn't matter what he does. We'll get the same people whining about who he didn't beat whether he wins by one length or twenty.

I have always been a fan of this horse. However, I think you bring up an excellent point. I don't know if it's the "never good enough" or "never be happy" syndrome; yet that is very often at play.

If and when that stellar, in depth field faces that next potential superstar horse, and the potential superstar horse prevails -- you might hear about trips, so and so was not 100%, the field wasn't as strong as everyone initially thought, so and so didn't show up or get a hold of the track, etc.

With that in mind -- how does everyone compare Discreet Cat's last two races? The Spa race was what it was. In just looking at the horse, what I saw was that he looked so "casual" and so "at ease" -- Gomez took a hold, took him off, he was relaxed, he sat back, he moved up slow and then it was over. Now, Rick Mettee had said he wasn't cranked up, wasn't 100% tight, fit, or something along those lines.

Now, did people see the same thing last out at Belmont? Mettee said he was 100% fit and cranked up. Did he appear to be "as relaxed", while he was going, as he was at the Spa? Just curious as to what others "saw" and "felt" -- any thoughts?

Thank you.

Eric

brianwspencer · #13 11-25-2006, 11:11 AM

Once he beats Invasor outside of Dubai I will gladly humble myself and say he is the best dirt horse in the world.

Invasor surely wasn't the first horse to run a clunker in Dubai (if you can even call it that with the trip he had), and surely won't be the last.

All things considered, I will still say that DC winning today by a head or by 10 lengths will do nothing to sway my opinion that Invasor is the best dirt horse around.

Danzig · #14 11-25-2006, 09:02 PM

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It doesn't matter what he does. We'll get the same people whining about who he didn't beat whether he wins by one length or twenty.

poor ateam, moderator of a whiners board. everyone should have it so tough.

everyone who's paid attention to discreets figures this year know that he's been billed as the fastest--ahead of henny and bernardini for sure. shame he's shipping to dubai. his last ship knocked him out for a while, here's hoping he handles this trip better.

as for sharp humor, i guess you(ateam) and i are reading different posts. seems the only time i really see him mentioned is an occasional pick, and by ateam to knock those who like barbaro. such bitterness.

#15 11-25-2006, 09:10 PM

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poor ateam, moderator of a whiners board. everyone should have it so tough.

everyone who's paid attention to discreets figures this year know that he's been billed as the fastest--ahead of henny and bernardini for sure. shame he's shipping to dubai. his last ship knocked him out for a while, here's hoping he handles this trip better.

as for sharp humor, i guess you(ateam) and i are reading different posts. seems the only time i really see him mentioned is an occasional pick, and by ateam to knock those who like barbaro. such bitterness.

I dunno how you could whine about what he beat, he beat a good field.
I just don't know if anyone besides me ever watches undercards and realizes how incredibly fast this track was playing.
Great race yeah, but when you have ole Bark going in 1:21:3 on the same card, well I mean, do you need to be a rocket scientist to see how fast the track was?
using his raw time to try and prove hes Dr Fager isn't logical.
great horse yeah no doubt. I dunno about anything more than that.

blackthroatedwind · #16 11-25-2006, 09:20 PM

Anybody complaining about him equaling or setting the record on today's track because it was extraordinarily fast, which it was, doesn't remember the track the day Easy Goer set the record. That track was the same kind of highway.

Believe me, I loved Easy Goer, and hate to see him lose any record, but if it was going to happen at least it was a super talented horse like Discreet Cat. I doubt there is any shame in sharing a record with him.

ateamstupid · #17 11-26-2006, 02:37 AM

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as for sharp humor, i guess you(ateam) and i are reading different posts. seems the only time i really see him mentioned is an occasional pick, and by ateam to knock those who like barbaro. such bitterness.

LOL, I have no idea why you'd think I'm bitter. I didn't like Barbaro, didn't dislike Barbaro. I'm just pointing out an observation I thought seemed pretty obvious.. Not bitter at all, still drooling over a possible Discreet Cat vs. Invasor matchup..

Danzig · #18 11-26-2006, 08:28 AM

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LOL, I have no idea why you'd think I'm bitter. I didn't like Barbaro, didn't dislike Barbaro. I'm just pointing out an observation I thought seemed pretty obvious.. Not bitter at all, still drooling over a possible Discreet Cat vs. Invasor matchup..

was making an observation of my own, you seem to see something that isn't there regarding sharp humor. i haven't seen anyone rooting him on at all.

and i would love to see a dc invasor rematch as well. i read the invasor article in bloodhorse, did you happen to see it? wasn't aware he had a sesamoid fracture early on in his career til this story...and also saw he had a troubled trip in dubai. how troubled i don't know, i wasn't lucky enough to have seen the race.
maybe the DWC will bring us what we wish for.