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Old 11-12-2013, 09:44 AM
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How about doing it for the integrity of the game, or does that matter at all?

The pool was certainly manipulated because of his bet, whether there was an ulterior motive or not. I don't believe it was just a honest change of mind though but thats almost irrelevant in terms of protecting the betting public, which does not seem that important in this business.
Think this cuts to the heart of the issue. People should be able to cancel and all, but this situation gets into an arena that violates the spirit of that largess and simply deflates the wagering public's confidence/interest.
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Old 11-12-2013, 10:11 AM
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Think this cuts to the heart of the issue. People should be able to cancel and all, but this situation gets into an arena that violates the spirit of that largess and simply deflates the wagering public's confidence/interest.
Maybe at Santa Anita they would have said no to something like this, but as you said Xpressbet has a much larger interest in this customer.
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Old 11-12-2013, 10:51 AM
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remember the mad bomber at gulfstream in the winter of 94 ? used to make a hoss 1-9 first flash and watch him drift up. he wasn't a canceller though
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Old 11-12-2013, 02:45 PM
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I'd say limit the number of times he can do that.

After three major cancellations, he can only cancel say, maybe, 50% of any large bets.
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Old 11-12-2013, 06:51 PM
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This was posted on the PA board. Interesting stuff.

http://aysps.gsu.edu/isp/files/ISP_Field_1.pdf

All this discussion makes me think of the euro bookmakers who offer their own odds and whether we might get back to that instead of the pari mutual system. Thoughts ?
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Old 11-12-2013, 07:44 PM
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Its easier and faster to make $30000 bets online then cancelling it. Imagine counting 30k cash at the track then counting it again when cancelling.
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Old 11-12-2013, 08:41 PM
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I have no problem with someone canceling a bet...if this is his habit than just put his action in closer to the gate opening so if he cancels before hand, no harm no foul
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Old 11-12-2013, 09:39 PM
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This was posted on the PA board. Interesting stuff.

http://aysps.gsu.edu/isp/files/ISP_Field_1.pdf

All this discussion makes me think of the euro bookmakers who offer their own odds and whether we might get back to that instead of the pari mutual system. Thoughts ?
Yes its coming and its called exchange betting
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