2013-2014 NBA Season

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Clippers are going to go as far as DeAndre Jordan allows them to go. Just has to do a better job on the defensive end.
Vucevic was like Elvin Hayes today, 30 pts 20 rebounds.

This Deandre Jordan talk is silly Chuck. Hes lazy and big for nothing, and believe me I was super high on this guy. He is only 5th on his own team in PER, he is like a 10-10 guy.

[Duvalier]

Why was Lionel Hollins fired again? Not referencing last night's game, since Randolph only played like 8 minutes because of the birth of his son, but I don't think the metrics based strategy is going to work. Hollins was the perfect coach for that Memphis team. Game strategy shouldn't be coming from the suits upstairs.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

Why was Lionel Hollins fired again? Not referencing last night's game, since Randolph only played like 8 minutes because of the birth of his son, but I don't think the metrics based strategy is going to work. Hollins was the perfect coach for that Memphis team. Game strategy shouldn't be coming from the suits upstairs.

The offense just isnt functioning. They made a comeback against Detroit the other night but the Pistons gave that one up more than Memphis won it. By the time I turned that game on last night they were down 25 and had like 58 points heading into the 4th quarter. Disappointing to say the least but there is too much talent there to falter too long.

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The offense just isnt functioning. They made a comeback against Detroit the other night but the Pistons gave that one up more than Memphis won it. By the time I turned that game on last night they were down 25 and had like 58 points heading into the 4th quarter. Disappointing to say the least but there is too much talent there to falter too long.

I totally agree the talent is there, just seems like they should've kept Hollins...that team played hard for him and were coming off the best year in team history making it all the way to the conference finals. What was more impressive was Z-Bo coming back off the injury last year and coming off the bench without making a stink about it. Hollins was able to manage some pretty big egos in Memphis.

Because he wouldn't conform to the new metrics the front office was pushing as far as game strategy, they let him go and went with someone who would.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

I totally agree the talent is there, just seems like they should've kept Hollins...that team played hard for him and were coming off the best year in team history making it all the way to the conference finals. What was more impressive was Z-Bo coming back off the injury last year and coming off the bench without making a stink about it. Hollins was able to manage some pretty big egos in Memphis.

Because he wouldn't conform to the new metrics the front office was pushing as far as game strategy, they let him go and went with someone who would.

It doesn't seem to be a sound decision on the face of it.

The games I've watched this year they have played hard but look disjointed on offense.

[Cannon Shell]

Didnt take long for the league to figure out how to beat the 3 game juggernaut Sixers. They have given up 15 and 18 3 point baskets in their last two losses.

Phoenix is playing really hard too. They had a chance against SA last night but couldnt come up with a stop.

Orlando has a lot of pieces. They are a player or two from being good.

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It doesn't seem to be a sound decision on the face of it.

The games I've watched this year they have played hard but look disjointed on offense.

I think that comes from starting Allen and Prince together...teams are just packing the lane and crowding Gasol and Randolph and at the same time leaving Conley no room to get to the basket. I'm sure they'll eventually adjust but I still don't get the whole metrics thing.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

I think that comes from starting Allen and Prince together...teams are just packing the lane and crowding Gasol and Randolph and at the same time leaving Conley no room to get to the basket. I'm sure they'll eventually adjust but I still don't get the whole metrics thing.

They may be better letting Bayless play more with the 1st team. He is the one guy they have that can create his own shot and perhaps loosen up things. I know they like him to anchor the offense when Conley is resting but they need to spread things out.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

This Deandre Jordan talk is silly Chuck. Hes lazy and big for nothing, and believe me I was super high on this guy. He is only 5th on his own team in PER, he is like a 10-10 guy.

You just have comprehension issues I suppose. The Clippers are who they are to a man EXCEPT Jordan. He is the only one with potential growth. He is the only hope they have to have any semblance of a defense good enough to beat the good teams in the West. HE is the key because you'd hope he could become a Tyson Chandler type player which is exactly what the team needs. He just doesnt seem to have enough of a basketball IQ to do it. Always caught out of position on the basic NBA play, the pick and roll. Footwork just isnt there. Can't shoot FT's. You see they are stuck with what they have for the most part and Paul and Griffin and Dudley and Reddick and Crawford arent getting any better, they have all more or less maxed out at what they can do though some would believe that Griffin can expand his game (I disagree, he is what he is)

Leonard and Danny Green were SA's keys last year. Their improvement put SA over the top in the West. Despite the rhetoric the "stars" arent the guys who ultimately lift a team over the top. The stars are remarkably consistent players who may add a small piece to their game each year but are too good to really improve much. It is the role players doing their jobs well that make all the difference.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

This Deandre Jordan talk is silly Chuck. Hes lazy and big for nothing, and believe me I was super high on this guy. He is only 5th on his own team in PER, he is like a 10-10 guy.

How bout them Cavs! Bad loss last night to a weak team missing TWO starters.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

How bout them Cavs! Bad loss last night to a weak team missing TWO starters.

Clearly they are not meshing. Bynums not close. #1 pick is a whale and Waiters I overrated. I still think they are a playoff team, and by playoff time they should be improved and in shape. Anyone but Miami or Indiana they could upset.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Clearly they are not meshing. Bynums not close. #1 pick is a whale and Waiters I overrated. I still think they are a playoff team, and by playoff time they should be improved and in shape. Anyone but Miami or Indiana they could upset.

Chicago and the Nets will sweep them.

[Duvalier]

Watching the NBA on TNT and listening to Charles lol...says the two things you need on a good team are a superstar and a crazy guy. Talking about the Pacers and Lance Stephenson. TNT's pregame show is great.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

Watching the NBA on TNT and listening to Charles lol...says the two things you need on a good team are a superstar and a crazy guy. Talking about the Pacers and Lance Stephenson. TNT's pregame show is great.

Best studio show in sports. Not even close

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

Watching the NBA on TNT and listening to Charles lol...says the two things you need on a good team are a superstar and a crazy guy. Talking about the Pacers and Lance Stephenson. TNT's pregame show is great.

Pacers are really good. They are a 100% legit threat to Miami.
Honestly Oden better be able to give them 20min a game come playoff time or Miami might be in trouble

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Pacers are really good. They are a 100% legit threat to Miami.
Honestly Oden better be able to give them 20min a game come playoff time or Miami might be in trouble

The Pacers are very good. Bird did a great job upgrading the bench.

[rpncaine]

Miami is in trouble! I've followed the Pacers since ABA days and this is the best all around team here ever. Barring major inuries they will win the East.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Chicago and the Nets will sweep them.

Chicago has huge issues, people better start understanding that now. Miami and Indiana are so far ahead of everyone else its not even really worth discussing.

As for your boy Jordan.....2-6, 6 points and 1 block in 30min vs Miami. Miami's only weakness is being soft inside so your boy should dominate.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Chicago has huge issues, people better start understanding that now. Miami and Indiana are so far ahead of everyone else its not even really worth discussing.

As for your boy Jordan.....2-6, 6 points and 1 block in 30min vs Miami. Miami's only weakness is being soft inside so your boy should dominate.

He isnt my boy but they cant do anything in the playoffs unless he plays significantly better. He doesnt play well and they lose. Big surprise.

What are Chicago's issues?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He isnt my boy but they cant do anything in the playoffs unless he plays significantly better. He doesnt play well and they lose. Big surprise.

What are Chicago's issues?

Chicagos issue. I will start with the basic most obvious ones. They are not nearly as good as Indiana or Miami, but they actually believe they are. Thats a big problem. They are not big enough or tough enough for Indiana. They dont score enough and they again are not tough enough where they think they can bully Miami. They are just not that good. Butler is like this made up version of Paul George. Young and supposed to be good, good defender slasher. But hes not. Hes just not that good. He is a 10-13 point a game scorer who everyone had as a breakout type star. Good luck. Boozer and Deng are exactly what they are. Rock solid, but you are never winning a championship with big Carlos being your #2. These 2 have literally been on the trade block for at least 3 years. NOah, Hinrich, Dunleavy these guys are journey men. None of them do multiple things good. Dunleavy plays no D, but can shoot a little. Hinrich is a joke. Noah plays D and rebounds, Ill give you that but he is literally no threat at all on O.
Biggest problem is D Rose. Dude will never ever ever win a Title. Its Lebrons league for 5 years. Then Durant or Paul George will have a turn. Paul George is only 23 and he is the most exciting player in the NBA other then Lebron. He is a future super star.