2013-2014 NBA Season

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Carmelo couldn't wait to talk about being a free agent could he?

Carmelo will never win a title in this league, unless he pairs up with Lebron. He cant be your best player. Hes a gunner nothing more. I take Harden over Melo all day and dont look back.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Carmelo will never win a title in this league, unless he pairs up with Lebron. He cant be your best player. Hes a gunner nothing more. I take Harden over Melo all day and dont look back.

He can be your best player if you have complimentary parts around him. The Knicks do not.

Harden isn't exactly Mr Defense either

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He can be your best player if you have complimentary parts around him. The Knicks do not.

Harden isn't exactly Mr Defense either

At least he gets steals. He's a better all-around player than Melo.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Knicks under

Knicks need to go 33-5 to go over lol

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

Miami Heat 61½
Los Angeles Clippers 57
Chicago Bulls 56½
San Antonio Spurs 55½
Houston Rockets 54½
Indiana Pacers 54½
Brooklyn Nets 52½
Golden State Warriors 51½
Oklahoma City Thunder 51½
Memphis Grizzlies 50½
New York Knicks 49½
Denver Nuggets 46
Dallas Mavericks 43½
Minnesota Timberwolves 41
Cleveland Cavaliers 40
Detroit Pistons 40
Atlanta Hawks 39½
New Orleans Pelicans 39
Washington Wizards 39
Portland Trail Blazers 38½
Los Angeles Lakers 36½
Toronto Raptors 35½
Sacramento Kings 31
Milwaukee Bucks 29
Boston Celtics 27½
Charlotte Bobcats 26
Utah Jazz 25
Orlando Magic 24
Phoenix Suns 21
Philadelphia 76ers 17

Some low expectations for the Celtics, Lakers and Jazz...a bit more optimistic when it comes to the Wizards, Cavs, Pistons, Pelicans and T-Wolves.

#winlessforwiggins


We'll find a way to phuck it up. We'll string about 4-5 late season wins together to prevent us from the top pick. Just wait and see.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

#winlessforwiggins


We'll find a way to phuck it up. We'll string about 4-5 late season wins together to prevent us from the top pick. Just wait and see.

You don't even want Wiggins. Okafor looks the real deal.

56.5 for the Bulls seems low if you ask me, so I would go over on that.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Scav

You don't even want Wiggins. Okafor looks the real deal.

56.5 for the Bulls seems low if you ask me, so I would go over on that.

Okafor isn't eligible for this years draft.

Bulls can easily win 60 but Noah, Deng, Rose health is suspect and they may shut them down a bit at end of the year to rest for playoffs

[RockHardTen1985]

The Bulls, IMO, are totally irrelevant. It’s like they don’t exist. Bulls were riding high 2 years ago into the playoffs, then Lebron was put on Rose and he disappeared. Nothing has changed, its Lebrons league. It’s his time.
Chicago is like the Denver or Atlanta or Houston of the NFL. They might win 60 regular season games because they are tough and play good D. But come playoff time its Lebrons world.
Cleveland, Houston and Golden State will all be really good. Houston or Golden State will represent the West in the finals. Detroit will be OK. Atlanta will be horrible. Indiana will be rock solid, they will compete for the 1 seed in the East. Miami will likely get complacent/board. They will be the 2 or 3 seed and win it all again. Very simple really.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

The Bulls, IMO, are totally irrelevant. It’s like they don’t exist. Bulls were riding high 2 years ago into the playoffs, then Lebron was put on Rose and he disappeared. Nothing has changed, its Lebrons league. It’s his time.
Chicago is like the Denver or Atlanta or Houston of the NFL. They might win 60 regular season games because they are tough and play good D. But come playoff time its Lebrons world.
Cleveland, Houston and Golden State will all be really good. Houston or Golden State will represent the West in the finals. Detroit will be OK. Atlanta will be horrible. Indiana will be rock solid, they will compete for the 1 seed in the East. Miami will likely get complacent/board. They will be the 2 or 3 seed and win it all again. Very simple really.

We would welcome LeBron guarding Rose now. Matter of fact, love it. Since that happened two years ago, Deng and Noah have both improved offensively, and guys like Jimmy Butler and Taj Gibson have emerged. I don't know how I feel about Dunleavy yet cause I'm not sure he can play the type of defensive Thibs is gonna ask for.

Bulls, Heat and Pacers will be the top 3 in East, in any order, pretty much dependent on what injuries happen.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

The Bulls, IMO, are totally irrelevant. It’s like they don’t exist. Bulls were riding high 2 years ago into the playoffs, then Lebron was put on Rose and he disappeared. Nothing has changed, its Lebrons league. It’s his time.
Chicago is like the Denver or Atlanta or Houston of the NFL. They might win 60 regular season games because they are tough and play good D. But come playoff time its Lebrons world.
Cleveland, Houston and Golden State will all be really good. Houston or Golden State will represent the West in the finals. Detroit will be OK. Atlanta will be horrible. Indiana will be rock solid, they will compete for the 1 seed in the East. Miami will likely get complacent/board. They will be the 2 or 3 seed and win it all again. Very simple really.

If you will put up daily NBA picks I swear I will quit my day job tomorrow.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Okafor isn't eligible for this years draft.

Bulls can easily win 60 but Noah, Deng, Rose health is suspect and they may shut them down a bit at end of the year to rest for playoffs

Forget he was still in high school

Rose health is not suspect, he is fine, media just trying to stir stuff up.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Scav

Forget he was still in high school

Rose health is not suspect, he is fine, media just trying to stir stuff up.

So overrated.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Scav

Forget he was still in high school

Rose health is not suspect, he is fine, media just trying to stir stuff up.

I'd imagine that they wouldnt be playing him 40+ minutes right from the start which can impact the final win total. I saw him embarrass Siva the other day and he looked pretty healthy.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

#winlessforwiggins


We'll find a way to phuck it up. We'll string about 4-5 late season wins together to prevent us from the top pick. Just wait and see.

There are several really bad NBA teams this year but Philly is easily the worst. They have 1 SF on the roster (Turner) and he isn't really a true SF. Young is really a stretch 4. Kwame Brown, LaVoy Allen and Spencer Hawes will play a lot. They are not NBA starting level players by any stretch of the imagination.

The problem for the Sixers isn't coming in last, they will surely do that. It's that coming in last doesn't assure them of the top pick, the ping pong balls do.

[RockHardTen1985]

Was Bennett that bad at 1? It was a a soft class. I thought it was going to be Oledipo, but I had Bennett top 5. I think he will be fine.

[Duvalier]

Not as bad as Waiters at #4 in the 2012 draft. Last year's draft was especially weak, but Bennett at #1 was a bit of a stretch.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

Not as bad as Waiters at #4 in the 2012 draft. Last year's draft was especially weak, but Bennett at #1 was a bit of a stretch.

I think the worst part isnt that he took these two guys who are clearly not star level players but where he took them. He could have traded down if he really wanted to and drafted both later and gotten something else in return. If he picks these guys 10th and they have something else it is not nearly as bad. Neither would have a prayer of being a lottery pick this year.

I guess when you look at the fact he had 4 top 4 picks since 2011 and got Irving, Tristan Thompson, Waiters and Bennett I guess I'd be pretty nervous about letting him take another shot

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I think the worst part isnt that he took these two guys who are clearly not star level players but where he took them. He could have traded down if he really wanted to and drafted both later and gotten something else in return. If he picks these guys 10th and they have something else it is not nearly as bad. Neither would have a prayer of being a lottery pick this year.

I guess when you look at the fact he had 4 top 4 picks since 2011 and got Irving, Tristan Thompson, Waiters and Bennett I guess I'd be pretty nervous about letting him take another shot

I guess it could've been worse...he could've taken Royce White in the first round. Lucky for the Cavs the Rockets made that mistake at #16.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

I guess it could've been worse...he could've taken Royce White in the first round. Lucky for the Cavs the Rockets made that mistake at #16.

Yeah they used up their draft luck with Chandler Parsons. Funny that as you look back over the last few years drafts it is amazing how hit or miss it is.

Look at the year that Sac drafted Thomas Robinson a huge bust at #4 and got Isiah Thomas as the last pick in the same draft

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Was Bennett that bad at 1? It was a a soft class. I thought it was going to be Oledipo, but I had Bennett top 5. I think he will be fine.

Of course he was a bad pick at #1 considering that he might have fell out of the lottery had Cleveland not taken him. And that is in a really weak year. He has had a few decent games and maybe he will become a starting level player but obviously he and Waiters were reaches that no one had going that high. When a GM reaches in a draft and it doesnt work out he pays the price. They could have taken Noel and waited it out like Philly has but the delusional owner (and you) thought they'd be a playoff contender this year. Of course they did take a player that wasnt ready to open the season because he had shoulder surgery and likes to eat. The guy made indefensible moves.