What did we learn...Pre BC?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Speed horses who blow the break usually have no chance... especially when they're forced to resort to rally wide tactics at 10 furlongs over a track like the one on Saturday.

I think you have to draw a line through that race, Freddy. It was certainly not a representative race.

Cross Traffic's true odds were about 5,000/1 after he blew the break. Brilliant miler types with forward running styles can't spot stretch runners like Flat Out, Ron The Greek, and Orb a huge head start and be expected to rally around them in the stretch.

Bro have a heart he never ran a step...Any day we should be getting news on the horses ailments

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Bro have a heart he never ran a step...Any day we should be getting news on the horses ailments

He circled around Orb and went by him like he was standing still.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

He circled around Orb and went by him like he was standing still.

Orb looked like hell in the paddock. While I am no horse whisperer, he seemed very subdued and not his rambunctious self. he looked like he ate a handful of beta blockers

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Orb looked like hell in the paddock. While I am no horse whisperer, he seemed very subdued and not his rambunctious self. he looked like he ate a handful of beta blockers

Maggie was raving about how well Orb looked. Said "he looks better than I've ever seen him before"

She said Cross Traffic looks like he's tailing off physically. Cross Traffic was the horse she knocked the most in that race based on appearance.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Maggie was raving about how well Orb looked. Said "he looks better than I've ever seen him before"

She said Cross Traffic looks like he's tailing off physically. Cross Traffic was the horse she knocked the most in that race based on appearance.

The hell with Maggie. What we need are paddock observations from Freddy, especially after a few Sapphire and tonics.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The hell with Maggie. What we need are paddock observations from Freddy, especially after a few Sapphire and tonics.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by pweizer

What did you take away from the Gold Cup that convinces you one way or the other about Cross Traffic? I don't think I learned anything about him from that race.

Paul

I totally agree, after that start there is nothing IMO you can say about Cross Traffic's race. Unfortunately, we still have no idea whether 1 1/4 is within his scope. But as Doug points out, the race was over for him after the stumble and I would not expect a pure speed horse to run any better than he did after such a compromising start.

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I'm also unsure why everyone is suddenly in awe of Beholder. Did a lot of people not think she could win around two turns when totally unpressured on that surface?

She got away with such an easy unpressured lead that I too don't see why people are so in awe of that performance. Sure it was a nice race, but she could not have had more favorable circumstances. I am not sure what to take away from that race for Beholder.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Maggie was raving about how well Orb looked. Said "he looks better than I've ever seen him before"

She said Cross Traffic looks like he's tailing off physically. Cross Traffic was the horse she knocked the most in that race based on appearance.

I watched them saddle the colt he was ultra mellow and he was hardily himself..Remember he is a nervey colt its possible he is maturing and he looked fit and well just much much calmer then normal.. Maggie looked great as well