brilliant move, usps!

[dellinger63]

The USPS shouldn't go to congress, it should go to a Federal Bankruptcy Court and file a Chapter 11.

Severe changes including rates comparable to UPS and FedX (especially for some yahoo who wants a wedding cake flown onto a glacier in Alaska), pension obligations, closing facilities, and cutting staff ALL need to take place. A private company wouldn't go to congress if it were 'leaking' $1.3 billion a quarter (sans GM and heck of a lot of banks) and neither should the USPS.

Bailing them out w/o is equivalent to putting new tires on a car with a ceased engine.

[geeker2]

We are probably one generation away if having snail mail go the way of the $5 exacta at Santa Anita.

Maybe 1 day a week brings something with a piece of value ? The rest is direct to recycle.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

The USPS shouldn't go to congress, it should go to a Federal Bankruptcy Court and file a Chapter 11.

Severe changes including rates comparable to UPS and FedX (especially for some yahoo who wants a wedding cake flown onto a glacier in Alaska), pension obligations, closing facilities, and cutting staff ALL need to take place. A private company wouldn't go to congress if it were 'leaking' $1.3 billion a quarter (sans GM and heck of a lot of banks) and neither should the USPS.

Bailing them out w/o is equivalent to putting new tires on a care with a ceased engine.

They can't do anything to reduce the leak without going to congress to get approval yet you chastise them for going to congress.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

They can't do anything to reduce the leak without going to congress to get approval yet you chastise them for going to congress.

Kind of why I said they need to go to the court, not congress. They hear cases including BK cases w/o the seal of approval from congress.

The court also doesn't read Green Eggs and Ham on work time hence they probably have more time to assist with a business plan going foward.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

The USPS shouldn't go to congress, it should go to a Federal Bankruptcy Court and file a Chapter 11.

Severe changes including rates comparable to UPS and FedX (especially for some yahoo who wants a wedding cake flown onto a glacier in Alaska), pension obligations, closing facilities, and cutting staff ALL need to take place. A private company wouldn't go to congress if it were 'leaking' $1.3 billion a quarter (sans GM and heck of a lot of banks) and neither should the USPS.

Bailing them out w/o is equivalent to putting new tires on a car with a ceased engine.

I am curious to see what the person who paid to fly a wedding cake onto a glacier in Alaska paid, as I think perhaps you are confusing letter rates with package rates.

UPS and FedEx don't WANT the USPS business, that's what people can't seem to wrap their heads around:

Here’s Lauren T. Andrews, writing in the William & Mary Business Law Review:
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For example, the USPS is charged by governmental decree with providing universal service to all parts of the country, even in areas that may not be profitable. Private companies, on the other hand, can essentially ignore and avoid areas that may not be profitable, areas where they may otherwise be forced to serve if the postal monopolies were lifted and regulations put in place. Furthermore, companies such as UPS and FedEx would likely have no interest in the delivery of “letters,” primarily because it is not as profitable as larger parcel and package delivery. In fact, a UPS Spokesman, Norman Black, stated, “We believe that the government plays a role in terms of ensuring that every mailbox is reached every day …. That is not a responsibility that UPS would want.”
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And, not only would they not want it, David Hendel says they couldn’t do it.
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“Neither FedEx or UPS are even in the same league as the Postal Service, which goes to 100 million addresses every day," he tells me. "What they do, they do well. But they don’t do what the Postal Service does.”

http://www.minyanville.com/business-.../2012/id/42951

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

I am curious to see what the person who paid to fly a wedding cake onto a glacier in Alaska paid, as I think perhaps you are confusing letter rates with package rates.

UPS and FedEx don't WANT the USPS business, that's what people can't seem to wrap their heads around:



http://www.minyanville.com/business-.../2012/id/42951

UPS and FedEx actively pursue 3 parties (including USPS) now to carry parcels the "last mile" in areas where they do not have a local collective bargaining agreement with the Teamsters to protect that work.

Very similar to the old telephone company days, an overwhelming capital expenditure was to maintain and service the infrastructure from the neighborhood Central Office to the individual home.

The differences in the cost to fly a cargo plane to a depot vs. the cost of running a local delivery fleet are exponential.

In Florida, which is Right to Work, All of my parcels from Amazon are "Delivered" by a company called LaserShip. they are a contracted 3rd party that do nothing more than pickup deliveries from the FedEx/UPS/DHL depots and bring them to the house. There are virtually no UPS trucks anymore.

FedEx will even show, on their package tracking, that packages are statused "Delivered" when they arrive at the post office for dispatch to the home.

[Rudeboyelvis]

The bulk mail lobby is enormous and the main reason Congress does nothing to address the short fall. They get paid on the front end through "campaign donations" from orgs like http://napl.org/ and then you get to pay for it on the back end through taxes.

Lose - Lose for everyone but the lobby's and Congress.

Considering that 95% of what is carried via USPS these days is junk mail, why not demand that they pay for the service they abuse and stick you with the bill?

Thought junk mail was annoying? I'll show you annoying - you get to pay for it too!!!!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

The bulk mail lobby is enormous and the main reason Congress does nothing to address the short fall. They get paid on the front end through "campaign donations" from orgs like http://napl.org/ and then you get to pay for it on the back end through taxes.

Lose - Lose for everyone but the lobby's and Congress.

Considering that 95% of what is carried via USPS these days is junk mail, why not demand that they pay for the service they abuse and stick you with the bill?

Thought junk mail was annoying? I'll show you annoying - you get to pay for it too!!!!

i went on a website and stopped the majority of that junk mail. of course, 'resident' still shows up. i get next to nothing now that i need out of the mail anymore.
honestly, if they stopped it tomorrow, i wouldn't miss it.