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Old 09-25-2013, 09:09 AM
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the NTRA Poll should be “indicative of who may be crowned a divisional Champion in their respective divisions and ultimately reflect Horse of the Year.”
Contradicting.

Who can be Horse of the Year:

Game on Dude will be if he wins the Breeders Cup Classic.

Wise Dan almost certainly will be if Game on Dude doesn't win the Breeders Cup Classic and he wins the Mile.

Cross Traffic can be if he wins out and both Wise Dan and Game On Dude flame out.

Other than that, the field is about 100-1 to win Horse of the Year. Which means you don't need a top 10 poll...you need a top 2 and a half.

As to "indicative of who may be crowned a divisional Champion in their respective divisions" I guess you're supposed to vote for divisional leaders who can't sniff horse of the year after that?

That would make Princess of Sylmar #4

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Old 09-25-2013, 09:41 AM
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I just hope that this person who has linked Twilight/Vampires with thoroughbred racing doesn't have a vote.

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Old 09-25-2013, 11:30 AM
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Contradicting.

Who can be Horse of the Year:

Game on Dude will be if he wins the Breeders Cup Classic.

Wise Dan almost certainly will be if Game on Dude doesn't win the Breeders Cup Classic and he wins the Mile.

Cross Traffic can be if he wins out and both Wise Dan and Game On Dude flame out.

Other than that, the field is about 100-1 to win Horse of the Year. Which means you don't need a top 10 poll...you need a top 2 and a half.

As to "indicative of who may be crowned a divisional Champion in their respective divisions" I guess you're supposed to vote for divisional leaders who can't sniff horse of the year after that?

That would make Princess of Sylmar #4

Riveting.

What if Royal Delta wins Saturday then wins the Classic?
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Old 09-25-2013, 12:11 PM
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Contradicting.

Who can be Horse of the Year:

Game on Dude will be if he wins the Breeders Cup Classic.

Wise Dan almost certainly will be if Game on Dude doesn't win the Breeders Cup Classic and he wins the Mile.

Cross Traffic can be if he wins out and both Wise Dan and Game On Dude flame out.

Other than that, the field is about 100-1 to win Horse of the Year. Which means you don't need a top 10 poll...you need a top 2 and a half.

As to "indicative of who may be crowned a divisional Champion in their respective divisions" I guess you're supposed to vote for divisional leaders who can't sniff horse of the year after that?

That would make Princess of Sylmar #4

Riveting.
Your wrong, its over according to this guy, Wise Dan has had the best year and its not close.

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Your wrong, its over according to this guy, Wise Dan has had the best year and its not close.

http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/edito...e.cgi?id=39764
I believe there are a few scenarios that could make a few different horses HOY.
If Orb or Palace Malice were to win Saturday then win the BC Classic I think either of them could be HOY. If Cross Traffic wins Saturday then wins the BC Classic I think he would be HOY. If Will Take Charge wins the BC Classic I think he would be HOY. If Royal Delta wins this Saturday then beats the boys in the BC Classic I think she would win. If Game on Dude wins the Classic you could give it to him. I believe if any of the above happen, they would deserve HOY over Wise Dan and his all grass and 2 Grade 2 campaign. Taking nothing away from him either, he is great.
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:44 PM
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I just found it odd that Game On Dude demolished the fields in the SA Handicap, the Hollywood Gold Cup, and the Pacific Classic, the fastest figures of the year, and does not even merit consideration.
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I just found it odd that Game On Dude demolished the fields in the SA Handicap, the Hollywood Gold Cup, and the Pacific Classic, the fastest figures of the year, and does not even merit consideration.
Where is he right now? I thought he was running Saturday, are they going straight to the Classic? If he wins the Classic, he is HOY.
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Where is he right now? I thought he was running Saturday, are they going straight to the Classic? If he wins the Classic, he is HOY.
You have a different opinion than that of the writer who said Wise Dan would have to "flop" to lose it.

He is going to the Classic off the layoff.

I wont be shocked to see him lose the classic, its a tough race, but his year has been spectacular. I think its the best season by a west coast horse since......hmmm, well maybe AP Indy who won the SA Derby, Belmont, Breeders Cup Classic. Lava Man had a couple good years but nothing this dominant.
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Old 09-25-2013, 09:22 PM
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You have a different opinion than that of the writer who said Wise Dan would have to "flop" to lose it.

He is going to the Classic off the layoff.

I wont be shocked to see him lose the classic, its a tough race, but his year has been spectacular. I think its the best season by a west coast horse since......hmmm, well maybe AP Indy who won the SA Derby, Belmont, Breeders Cup Classic. Lava Man had a couple good years but nothing this dominant.
I dont think Wise Dan deserves it over any of the horses I mentioned if any of those things happen. Hell, even if Flat Out or Alpha were to sweep the JCGC and Classic I would then give it to either of them over Wise Dan. I know everyone loves Wise Dan, but the horse is a miler. Nothing wrong with that, he is great..... I just dont love him for HOY. Honestly, if POE comes back and wins the BC Turf I give him older turf horse over Wise Dan, even if Wise Dan wins at Keeneland and then the Mile.
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