chemical weapons

dellinger63 · #1 08-27-2013, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun

Not us...and in the Iraq/Iran war guess who the U.S. backed and sent arms..
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Guess who had its leader overthrown by radical Islamists headed by the Ayatollah and had taken over the American embassy complete with taking hostages that were held under disgusting conditions and paraded for a year and a half?

You suggest we should have backed the other side?

Just think how WWII would have turned out if we had backed Japan.

Danzig · #2 08-27-2013, 06:33 PM

so jay carney says it's not regime change...but we want assad gone, we're backing the opposition (which is whom, exactly? hezbollah? muslim brotherhood?), we want the current regime punished for the chem. weapons....we want a new admin in there.
but it's not regime change.

right.

bigrun · #3 08-27-2013, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

so jay carney says it's not regime change...but we want assad gone, we're backing the opposition (which is whom, exactly? hezbollah? muslim brotherhood?), we want the current regime punished for the chem. weapons....we want a new admin in there.
but it's not regime change.

right.

they don't know whether to schitt or go blind, so close one eye and fart..Israel is passing out gas masks, and Netanyahu says they are ready for any possibility..and shows pics of their missles...we have everyone on our side except Russia and China

Danzig · #4 08-27-2013, 07:22 PM

i think we'd be better off instituting no fly zones and the like.

actually, i think we should just stay out.
who are our allies in this case? who in syria do we support? if it's another karzai, and syria another a'stan, we need to avoid this at all costs.

at any rate, let's say we bomb...to save innocents being killed? how many will we kill in doing so?

when in doubt, do nothing. why now? just because chemical weapons may have been used?

bigrun · #5 08-27-2013, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i think we'd be better off instituting no fly zones and the like.

actually, i think we should just stay out.
who are our allies in this case? who in syria do we support? if it's another karzai, and syria another a'stan, we need to avoid this at all costs.

at any rate, let's say we bomb...to save innocents being killed? how many will we kill in doing so? many, friends and foes

when in doubt, do nothing. why now? just because chemical weapons may have been used?

Who made us the world's caretaker? Like Rosanne Roseannadanna used to say "it's always something'...

dellinger63 · #6 08-27-2013, 07:54 PM

We agree, I too think we should stay the f' out. Maybe a large flyby dropping no bombs could act as the match. Radicals on both sides threaten to murder their daughters and over comics and videos much less their enemies.

The only conceivable reason we would bomb would be to massage the President's ego and back his line in the sand threat.

Contain and not restrain.

dellinger63 · #7 08-27-2013, 08:02 PM

We could also approach Russia with the promise to hold off bombing if they give us that punk Snowden back.

Then we could torture the f'k out of him to find out what info he gave away before putting him in Gitmo as an enemy combatant. (He obviously gave his citizenship up for Russia).

bigrun · #8 08-27-2013, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

The only conceivable reason we would bomb would be to massage the President's ego and back his line in the sand threat.

No way...he's the one holding back..

Danzig · #9 08-27-2013, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun

Who made us the world's caretaker? Like Rosanne Roseannadanna used to say "it's always something'...

who? europe.

we can't win. if we get involved, some complain. if we don't, others complain.

we should and must do what's best for us.

bah, who am i kidding. whomever the bankers want us to back is who we will back.
i'm sick of the wars, the middle east. what have we gained after years of blood and treasure? not a damn thing.

bigrun · #10 08-27-2013, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i'm sick of the wars, the middle east. what have we gained after years of blood and treasure? not a damn thing.

Amen to that..

bigrun · #11 08-27-2013, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

Guess who had its leader overthrown by radical Islamists headed by the Ayatollah and had taken over the American embassy complete with taking hostages that were held under disgusting conditions and paraded for a year and a half?

You suggest we should have backed the other side?

Fk no, just stay the F out!..No, we backed them and then invaded their country..and removed the buffer between them and Isreal..Iran is 80% Shiite which was Iraq's minority..
We wind up supporting Iraq's Shiites..nice work..

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Just think how WWII would have turned out if we had backed Japan.

GenuineRisk · #12 08-27-2013, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

Guess who had its leader overthrown by radical Islamists headed by the Ayatollah and had taken over the American embassy complete with taking hostages that were held under disgusting conditions and paraded for a year and a half?

You suggest we should have backed the other side?

Just think how WWII would have turned out if we had backed Japan.

You mean the leader that was installed by us after we orchestrated a coup to overthrow Iran's democratically elected leader because we didn't like him nationalizing his own nation's oil industry (which up until then was being exploited by the Brits)? The leader we installed who ruled as a monarch for over 25 years because we were paying the bills? That leader?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'état

Since you advocate cutting foreign aid as a solution to the national debt, one would have thought you'd have been pleased about a foreign nation telling the USA to take its monetary aid and get stuffed.