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Old 08-02-2013, 02:12 AM
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There was actually a similar case in Michigan. A family found an injured baby deer. They were told by the DNR that they couldn't keep the deer. The family fought the DNR and won. The family got a permit and was allowed to keep the deer. They have had her now for 5 years.

At least in this case (in Michigan) things were handled properly. The DNR told the people they couldn't keep the deer. The people were allowed to appeal the decision and they eventually won. These people were allowed to plead their case and they won.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headline...keep-pet-deer/

In Wisconsin, there was no discussion or anything. The government thugs simply raided the place and killed the deer. It is absolutely outrageous. Why weren't the people given some type of deadline? Why weren't the people given the opportunity to move the deer? The people were given no warning. What is so sad is that they had an animal sanctuary that was going to take the deer the next day.

Some of these government bureaucrats are just completelybrain dead. In the case in Wisconsin, a news reporter asked the DNR supervisor why they didn't just call the people and tell them they couldn't keep the deer. She responded, "If a sheriff's department is going in to do a search warrant on a drug bust, they don't call them and ask them to voluntarily surrender their marijuana or whatever drug that they have before they show up."

How could this imbecile compare people taking care of a baby deer to drug dealers? The stupidity of some of these bureaucrats is mind-boggling.

Here is the article about the case in Michigan:

If a sheriff's department is going in to do a search warrant on a drug bust, they don't call them and ask them to voluntarily surrender their marijuana or whatever drug that they have before they show up

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Old 08-02-2013, 07:01 AM
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i think the fear is a deer being infected and passing it to other deer and other animals, such as cows. there's obviously a way for them to do so, as deer and cows don't eat each other. there's a huge risk with possibly infected deer coming into a new area and passing on the illness. it's akin to horses having to have negative coggins tests. there's not necessarily a harm to a person if a horse is positive, but there certainly is risk for other horses.
the woman shouldn't have picked up the deer to begin with. a doe leaves it's fawn to hide while she goes off and eats, and stays away from the fawn, since fawns are essentially scent-free, while the doe is not. this is how they protect offspring from predators, since they can't outrun them.
there are laws against just taking in deer. the woman who thought it was orphaned should have called game and fish immediately. the illness is a huge problem up there, and people trying to be good samaritans might actually be causing more harm than good.
the article was hysterical in tone, just the kind of thing to get people all hot and bothered.
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Old 08-02-2013, 11:01 AM
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This heading should more properly have been titled "Wisconsin Tax Dollars at Work" because all the authorities involved were State, not Federal ones. I appreciate the knee-jerk right-wing attempt to imply this was the big bad Federal Gov't at work, but in fact the parties involved were all Cheeseheads.

That said, I do agree with the sentiment, which is a general fear of the increasing militarization of local police forces. The police's job is to protect and serve. Not terrify and intimidate. But the cops seem to forget this. Probably because they usually get away with it.

Euthanizing is what is usually done in NYS, too, unless the animal is something uncommon, like a hawk. Deer are not uncommon, and, as Danzig pointed out, possibly infected with a pretty nasty disease.

Fact is, the people who brought the deer in broke the law. And last time I checked, ignorance of the law was not considered a valid excuse for violating it. LEAVE WILD ANIMALS ALONE. How hard is this for people to grasp?

So true about fawns not moving! My uncle nearly ran over one with his mower once- little thing was tucked in the grass, waiting for mama to come back, and even the noise of the mower wasn't going to move him. Fortunately, my uncle saw him in time and eventually mama came back to get her wee one.
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Old 08-02-2013, 11:49 AM
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This heading should more properly have been titled "Wisconsin Tax Dollars at Work" because all the authorities involved were State, not Federal ones. I appreciate the knee-jerk right-wing attempt to imply this was the big bad Federal Gov't at work, but in fact the parties involved were all Cheeseheads..
DNR is funded by license fees not tax dollars.

Thanks to the governor, WI is very careful spending its tax dollars unlike the neighbor to the south. Deer in WI are as common as rats in Chicago and this is a non-story. The only idiots involved here are the ones who named the deer.
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