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Old 06-25-2013, 07:50 PM
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Hopefully they're not thinking that the platoon of Snyder and Tabata will do the rest of the way.
I agree.

It was a good idea at the start of the season...both guys are young, can run, play good defense for RF, and maybe one would break-out.

I like T. Snidely Whiplash a lot against right-handed pitching. He works the counts, he has good at-bats, he usually gets the job done when he has to move runners over, he's been clutch with several timely hits in key spots, and he's been a little unlucky...hitting a lot of balls hard, but right at people.

Still, the offensive stats for him are mediocre. Cannon Shell can make a case with numbers that Ethier is the much better option ... but I feel good about Snider. At age 25 and a former mid 1st round pick, I still feel like he's a threat to get hot with the bat. However, he's a major liability against Lefty's.

Tabata, has the stupidest tattoo I've ever seen... lips on his neck, and can't stay healthy. Even though he hits right-handed, he doesn't get it done against left-handed pitching. He has a lot of annoying at-bats where you curse him, unlike Snider.

Other than right-field ... I don't see an upgrade. I'm fine with the Gabby Sanchez/Garrett Jones platoon at 1st base. We are absolutely set everywhere else.

If the Angels continue to struggle ... what about Mark Trumbo?
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Old 06-25-2013, 08:53 PM
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And playing right field for the Pirates tonight...Brandon Inge. Get the White Sox on the phone...
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Old 06-25-2013, 09:11 PM
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The Pirates need good ole #39 in Right Field - Dave Parker

One of the 1st ballplayers to fashion a diamond earring and the fans loved to hurl batteries at him while he played his outfield position - his famous quote back in 1980 was - "When the leaves turn brown, I'll be wearing the batting crown"....
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Old 06-25-2013, 09:44 PM
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And playing right field for the Pirates tonight...Brandon Inge. Get the White Sox on the phone...
Brandon Inge in RF...that Clint Hurdle is a genius
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Old 06-25-2013, 09:49 PM
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Brandon Inge in RF...that Clint Hurdle is a genius
LOL. He smokes a 3-run homer.

He could be the right-handed power bat we've been looking for in RF...if you ignore his .198 batting average, otherwise lack of power, and decrepit age.

It's not pretty when you have Gabby hitting clean-up, a hotshot young Minor League call-up Catcher known more for his defense as your DH, and Inge as your right-fielder...but it's working great tonight.
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Old 06-26-2013, 06:38 AM
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LOL. He smokes a 3-run homer.

He could be the right-handed power bat we've been looking for in RF...if you ignore his .198 batting average, otherwise lack of power, and decrepit age.

It's not pretty when you have Gabby hitting clean-up, a hotshot young Minor League call-up Catcher known more for his defense as your DH, and Inge as your right-fielder...but it's working great tonight.
I know right? After I posted about the White Sox, Inge goes and hits a 3 run homer. I had to give Hurdle credit and tab him a genius lol. Right now he's pushing all the right buttons with this team.
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Old 06-26-2013, 08:10 AM
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Honestly, Inge is the only right-handed hitter that they have available to play right-field with Tabata on the DL.

It was either that, or a 3-Catcher line-up...using Russell Martin in right-field, and have one Catcher DH and another one Catch.

But, you can't put Russell Martin in right-field with Locke on the mound. The two of them have a great chemistry. The announcers claim that Locke has not shaken off Martin a single time this year, which is unbelievable. He's literally thrown every pitch that Martin has called for.
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Old 06-26-2013, 08:24 AM
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Here's a crazy fact ... the Pirates have won all 7 games that Jenmar Gomez has started this year.

He was a huge underdog on a couple of occasions.

Still, I can't believe he is only a +140 underdog against King Felix in Seattle today.

If a Jenmar Gomez VS King Felix match-up in Seattle happened at the start of the year, Seattle would have been about a huge favorite.
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Old 06-28-2013, 04:49 PM
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Honestly, Inge is the only right-handed hitter that they have available to play right-field with Tabata on the DL.
Looks like they brought Josh Harrison up and are planning to use him in RF sometime this weekend against the Brewers left-handed starters. I really hope they just add the salary and acquire someone like Rios...a legitimate major league starting outfielder.
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Old 06-26-2013, 07:30 PM
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I agree.

It was a good idea at the start of the season...both guys are young, can run, play good defense for RF, and maybe one would break-out.

I like T. Snidely Whiplash a lot against right-handed pitching. He works the counts, he has good at-bats, he usually gets the job done when he has to move runners over, he's been clutch with several timely hits in key spots, and he's been a little unlucky...hitting a lot of balls hard, but right at people.

Still, the offensive stats for him are mediocre. Cannon Shell can make a case with numbers that Ethier is the much better option ... but I feel good about Snider. At age 25 and a former mid 1st round pick, I still feel like he's a threat to get hot with the bat. However, he's a major liability against Lefty's.

Tabata, has the stupidest tattoo I've ever seen... lips on his neck, and can't stay healthy. Even though he hits right-handed, he doesn't get it done against left-handed pitching. He has a lot of annoying at-bats where you curse him, unlike Snider.

Other than right-field ... I don't see an upgrade. I'm fine with the Gabby Sanchez/Garrett Jones platoon at 1st base. We are absolutely set everywhere else.

If the Angels continue to struggle ... what about Mark Trumbo?
You dont think SS is a problem? Barmes has been awful at the plate and according to the defensive metrics has slipped in the field too. The young kid platooning with him is sure to regress.
1b for Pitt is a below average position.

They are near the bottom of the NL in most offensive categories, they dont hit HR's, they dont walk much, they don't score much. These are gonna be issues later in the year as the pitching fades.
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Old 06-26-2013, 08:21 PM
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You dont think SS is a problem? Barmes has been awful at the plate and according to the defensive metrics has slipped in the field too. The young kid platooning with him is sure to regress.
1b for Pitt is a below average position.
He's not platooning with him. Mercer is now the everyday starter.

Barmes lost the job. His defense was outstanding. He was robbing people of hits and making great plays every other game. He is just terrible with the bat.

I suppose it's a relative thing ... but I'm not worried at all about shortstop and I don't think the team is either.

The team has been a lot more successful since benching Barmes, but I still feel very good about having him.

Gabby Sanchez and Garrett Jones are both terrific defensive 1B's ... and they are a perfect platoon, because Gabby only hits left-handed pitching well and Jones is great against right-handed pitching but useless against lefties.

All this team needs is a good Right-handed bat in RF. The team is 8-0 when Jenmar Gomez starts games. He's just 25 years-old, he has a .276 ERA, a .114 WHIP, he pitched 5 innings of no hit-ball in his final AAA rehab start, and pitched very well today ... yet he's out of the starting rotation and headed back to the bullpen when Wandy and A. J. Burnett get back into the rotation.

The bullpen is unbelievable. I can see why AAA Indianapolis has been the best minor league team in baseball over the last few years.

This is not even close to the same team as last year. Last year, McCutchen, A. J Burnett, Walker and the bullpen were carrying the team by themselves for a long time. Those three guys have all been banged up this year, especially the latter two, and they've played below expectations.

This team got a monumental upgrade at catcher in Russell Martin. Liriano has been a nice addition to the starting rotation. And Melancon has been sensational in the bullpen. But, it's the youth movement that has made all the difference.
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Old 06-26-2013, 10:11 PM
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After the Cards just lost to the Houston Astros tonight...the Pirates now have the best record in all of baseball.

And...

12 of the next 15 Pirates games are at Home.

And 12 of the next 15 Pirates games are against teams with losing records.

They have a big chance to tack on to their 18 games over .500 record.
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:20 PM
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What an amazing job Clint Hurdle has done with this team. Maybe the best managing of a team I have seen in some time. I know a lot of ball left to be played but this guy looks to be a lock to get manager of the year award.
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Old 06-27-2013, 03:32 AM
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He's not platooning with him. Mercer is now the everyday starter.

Barmes lost the job. His defense was outstanding. He was robbing people of hits and making great plays every other game. He is just terrible with the bat.

I suppose it's a relative thing ... but I'm not worried at all about shortstop and I don't think the team is either.

The team has been a lot more successful since benching Barmes, but I still feel very good about having him.

Gabby Sanchez and Garrett Jones are both terrific defensive 1B's ... and they are a perfect platoon, because Gabby only hits left-handed pitching well and Jones is great against right-handed pitching but useless against lefties.

All this team needs is a good Right-handed bat in RF. The team is 8-0 when Jenmar Gomez starts games. He's just 25 years-old, he has a .276 ERA, a .114 WHIP, he pitched 5 innings of no hit-ball in his final AAA rehab start, and pitched very well today ... yet he's out of the starting rotation and headed back to the bullpen when Wandy and A. J. Burnett get back into the rotation.

The bullpen is unbelievable. I can see why AAA Indianapolis has been the best minor league team in baseball over the last few years.

This is not even close to the same team as last year. Last year, McCutchen, A. J Burnett, Walker and the bullpen were carrying the team by themselves for a long time. Those three guys have all been banged up this year, especially the latter two, and they've played below expectations.

This team got a monumental upgrade at catcher in Russell Martin. Liriano has been a nice addition to the starting rotation. And Melancon has been sensational in the bullpen. But, it's the youth movement that has made all the difference.
The problem is that most of the pitchers have exceeded what their norms would be and the team is still near the bottom of the league in offense.

Liriano isn't likely to make it through the season with a 2.30 ERA
Gomez is really unlikely to continue at his current pace
Locke is unlikely to continue at this pace
Burnett is 36 and hurt again
Wandy Rodriguez is hurt but is the only SP on the team not having a career year at this point.
Bryan Morris, Melancon, Grilli, Wilson all having career years or have stats that are exceeding their minor league numbers

The pitching coach obviously is doing a great job and the park factors help but it is unlikely that they all will continue to perform at the current level.

They are gonna have to add some bats to the lineup or they will just be the Oakland A's of the NL. Make the playoffs with young, cheap guys and castoff vets but get wiped out in the playoffs when they have to face the other teams best pitchers only. Understandably making the playoffs for a team that hasn't in 20 years is a huge deal but hopefully management doesnt make the mistake in thinking that this team as currently constructed can make any noise in the playoffs without an extreme amount of good fortune. Not hating on your team but it would be nice if they had a single guy hitting .300 or more than one with more than 8 HR's heading into July.
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Old 06-27-2013, 03:46 AM
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I saw where Paul Konerko might be available. Would seem to be a great fit. Add's needed power, the "intangble" of veteran leadership and most importantly for the Pirates is a FA after the season so they commit no money beyond this season.
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Old 06-27-2013, 04:57 AM
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Obviously, they're winning at a pace that is going to be extremely difficult to sustain.

Following this team all year, The oddsmakers have been very tough on them. I can't tell you how many times I checked the odds before a game, certain they would be a favorite, only to find them a dog.

Still, it's scary how much better this team is now than the Pirates teams of the past two years.

This team is loaded with exceptionally good young players.

Garret Cole is getting a lot of buzz because he's a #1 overall draft pick and can throw 100MPH several times a game, and do it down in the strike zone...most guys with maxed out radar clockings keep their fastball in the top half of the strikezone at best, or usually way above it. He was throwing 100MPH at the bottom and in the zone last start. Still, there's no way that he's one of the five best starting pitchers on the team right now. And if you put him in the bullpen, he's probably the 5th or 6th best option there imo.

He leaves way too many balls in the middle of the zone. The pitching has been so otherworldly good...it's crazy.

I haven't followed much baseball at all, but I certainly think Pirates pitching is no fluke and will continue to hold up.
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Old 06-27-2013, 06:31 AM
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I hope you have cashed a few on the Pirates.
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Another great job by Liriano last night. He certainly has exceeded my expectations so far this year.
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Old 07-13-2013, 11:48 PM
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Big win for the Bucs tonight. Tied for the best record in the MLB one game before the All-Star break.

Sadly though, Locke will miss his scheduled start tomorrow. His pitching performances have been absolute art this year. He's not shaken Russell Martin off once all year, Martin calls it, and he locates it with incredible precision and never gives in, no matter the count and no matter if the home-plate ump isn't calling strikes on pitches nicking the edge of the corners.

It's Garret Cole instead tomorrow, who is the Anti-Locke ... and "locates" all of his far more electric stuff, right down the middle of the plate.
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If the Angels continue to struggle ... what about Mark Trumbo?
Teams rarely trade guys under club control (ie-cheap contracts) for 3 more years
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