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[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Danzig

as colbert explained, with less freedom, terrorists won't want to attack us any more. a win win situation when you look at it that way!!

i think the world has turned upside down. people are actually cheering the aclu because of the suit they filed yesterday, and that doesn't happen often. lefties screaming for obama's head, righties cheering his admins encroachments on our liberties.

drones killing us citizens with no due process.
irs using their power politically
phones, emails, etc being gathered en masse, with no individualized suspicion-that'll come later.

feinstein and boehner on the same side! crazy stuff.

Our Forefathers warned us explicitly about this, but when children are brought up for generations in public schools where the Constitution no longer even taught, it is hard to fault the younger people for being blind.

In just 8 short years, we will have college grads that have never known life before the Patriot act - it is all they grew up with, so they have no idea what our liberties were like before it.

Meanwhile, you still have the hawks continuing to draw us into even more conflicts - McCain visit to Syria for example - I saw him interviewed upon his return and was sickened by the same, tired saber-rattling ... For a guy that spent time in a tiger box as a POW he surely has never seen a war he didn't like.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Our Forefathers warned us explicitly about this, but when children are brought up for generations in public schools where the Constitution no longer even taught, it is hard to fault the younger people for being blind.

In just 8 short years, we will have college grads that have never known life before the Patriot act - it is all they grew up with, so they have no idea what our liberties were like before it.

Meanwhile, you still have the hawks continuing to draw us into even more conflicts - McCain visit to Syria for example - I saw him interviewed upon his return and was sickened by the same, tired saber-rattling ... For a guy that spent time in a tiger box as a POW he surely has never seen a war he didn't like.

it is a shame that schools ignore certain things-just saw a sixth grade class teacher showed 'saw', good move teach! i always made sure to have books, etc, and talk to my kids about things that school couldn't teach. my three are seething just like i am about all this. we're all history nuts...and many aren't. but, history can teach us so much, such as if people had paid attention years ago when i said 'remember the alien and sedition acts?' and got funny looks.

and mccain and his visit-what a joke!!

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