Problems with Hollywood park's new track?

[2Hot4TV]

I'm listening to Roger Stien on a local radio show and it's all about what they have been doing with the track.

They have been playing with the surface and have got it to the point that the trainers are split on what they want. The surface was suppost to be maintain itself. A do nothing, add nothing , but they couldn't leave it alone.

Todd Pletcher's barn had the horse come up lame after thier work this morning.

http://www.racingjason.com/ Brad Free is on right now and he will have a clocker on before the hour is out.

[2Hot4TV]

True it will get kicked to the poly room ,but some information is far to important to be put in a place where few will read.

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

True it will get kicked to the poly room ,but some information is far to important to be put in a place where few will read.

My biggest problem with it is this, they haven't left themselves any outs.
More than one wise man has given me the advice in my life "always leave yourself an out" meaning don't lock yourself into something with no chance to get out of it.
The cost itself of 10-12 mill means if its not working out that by all practical means you have no options to change it.
I think this rush to judgement was a terrible mistake.

[Danzig]

there's gotta be a warranty, etc on this stuff. if it doesn't perform to their satisfaction, no doubt they would have some rights regarding pulling it up, moeny back, etc. how could they not? turfway had trouble, they had to have some major work done on a brand new surface. then woodbine with their issues, and now this.

[2Hot4TV]

The problems they are having at HP have been created by the track maintance crew. IMO.

I do wonder what will happen in the summer time when it's around 110 degrees.

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

The problems they are having at HP have been created by the track maintance crew. IMO.

I do wonder what will happen in the summer time when it's around 110 degrees.

And the probelms at Woodbine were supposedly created by the extreme cold.
Any new invention or innovation has to be tested and observed in all relevant conditions in order to understand its limitations and problems.
Due diligence was not done with this stuff.

[PSH]

Extreme cold in Canada, you think they would have tested under that condition...

Mike is absolutely right. It is painfully obvious at this point in time that wagering on these new surfaces is pretty much close your eyes and hope. Sure, you are going to be right once in a while but at least so far it is definitely a different surface than grass and dirt...

PSH

[The Bid]

Stuff is unreal, its racing evolution.

Im having polytrack laid down at my home as we speak. Should be better for my dog to get over in route to ****ting on the front lawn.

[SentToStud]

The stuff will probably be ok in the long run.

But the problem is if your track among the first tracks to put it in, then you are the proverbial guinea pig. You cannot substitute laboratory results for real experience.

I liken it to that eye-surgery that remedies poor sight. Sure it may work, but what problems will these people have in 15 or 20 years?

I have lousy eyesight and would love to not wear contacts but I'll wait to have the surgery until someone can show me a picture of the Mayo Clinic Board of Directors with nobody in the photo wearing glasses.

Originally Posted by SentToStud

The stuff will probably be ok in the long run.

But the problem is if your track among the first tracks to put it in, then you are the proverbial guinea pig. You cannot substitute laboratory results for real experience.

I liken it to that eye-surgery that remedies poor sight. Sure it may work, but what problems will these people have in 15 or 20 years?

I have lousy eyesight and would love to not wear contacts but I'll wait to have the surgery until someone can show me a picture of the Mayo Clinic Board of Directors with nobody in the photo wearing glasses.

Thats what I was trying to say Stud.
Lab experiments are too often done in vacuum conditions.
You get to the real world and folks say whoops, goofed.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

Todd Pletcher's barn had the horse come up lame after thier work this morning.

It was Circle the World and, sadly, he was euthanized.....