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Old 05-04-2013, 08:20 PM
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I needed Normandy Invasion for the double and an exacta. I do think Javy moved a little early, but I don't think anyone was going to beat Orb on this day. The race kind of broke down and maybe that hurt Normandy Invasion from making a launch from the middle one run, but I don't think he wins regardless. That being said, I do think he could have gotten 2nd
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Old 05-05-2013, 01:04 AM
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I needed Normandy Invasion for the double and an exacta. I do think Javy moved a little early, but I don't think anyone was going to beat Orb on this day. The race kind of broke down and maybe that hurt Normandy Invasion from making a launch from the middle one run, but I don't think he wins regardless. That being said, I do think he could have gotten 2nd
I agree. I thought he moved too soon and would have been a clear 2nd with a more patient ride.
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Old 05-05-2013, 07:46 AM
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Hard to justify that ride. Especially from a supposed top jock. Wins with a more patient ride
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Old 05-05-2013, 08:07 AM
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I don't think it was a bad ride. He just wasn't good enough
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Old 05-05-2013, 08:36 AM
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I probably missed it somewhere, but was Johnny V's decision on who to ride made because of his relationship with Pletcher or did they think Verrazano had a better chance to win?
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Old 05-05-2013, 08:51 AM
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I probably missed it somewhere, but was Johnny V's decision on who to ride made because of his relationship with Pletcher or did they think Verrazano had a better chance to win?
i think it was more due to him riding for pletcher so much-but it's not like verrazano wasn't a good horse.
sometimes you pick right, sometimes not....
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Old 05-05-2013, 09:12 AM
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i think it was more due to him riding for pletcher so much-but it's not like verrazano wasn't a good horse.
sometimes you pick right, sometimes not....
I think it had everything to do with his relationship with Pletcher. The Derby may be the biggest race of the year, but it's still just one race. He's smart (and classy) to stay loyal.
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Old 05-05-2013, 08:52 AM
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I agree with Cannon...he wasn't winning today. I bet him to win...he simply didn't have enough in the tank & wouldn't have even with a more patient ride.
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Old 05-05-2013, 09:02 AM
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He moved WAY too soon and cost his mount at least a 2nd place finish in my opinion.
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Old 05-05-2013, 09:39 AM
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I agree with Cannon...he wasn't winning today. I bet him to win...he simply didn't have enough in the tank & wouldn't have even with a more patient ride.
I bet Normandy Invasion to win, too, but now that it's all about hoping for a TC for me, I would like to think that right now Orb is just maybe better than everyone else.

(But I'm not saying that very loud, Racing Gods, okay?)
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Old 05-05-2013, 11:31 AM
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I don't think it was a bad ride. He just wasn't good enough

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The game has all these tech advances, albeit for the fans, over the last few years with innovations like Trakus to make a race easier to follow. Is there nothing on these massive scoreboards for these jocks to see or in some way hear the splits for the big races on a day like yesterday.

Is a glance at 22.1, 45.1 or 109.4 on these huge tote boards completely out of the question given the chaos of a 19 horse field. I realize the jocks are supposed to have a decent clock in their heads or does it not matter once a suicide pace is set you can't slow'em down and expect to kick it in gear at the top of the stretch. The horse doesn't exactly come with a gear shift.....
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Old 05-05-2013, 11:33 AM
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He clearly moved too early, not sure how that is even a debate. I'm sure judging whether a pace is fast is suicidal is not an easy thing to do, but he judged wrong. At worst, he was the second best horse in the race.
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Old 05-05-2013, 12:08 PM
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He clearly moved too early, not sure how that is even a debate. I'm sure judging whether a pace is fast is suicidal is not an easy thing to do, but he judged wrong. At worst, he was the second best horse in the race.
Exactly,Castellano saw Oxbow go and went with him. He waits another second or 2 and he is 2nd easy.

Golden Soul I think killed everyone's ticket. I had him 3/4 on all of mine
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