5/4: Churchill Downs (139th Kentucky Derby)

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by pointman

Is there any way we are going to get 10-1 on Southern Dude? Working through that race it seemed obvious to me on paper that tactically this race sets up very well for him.

Originally Posted by Rootdog1

Really? Berlino Di Tiger will get the lead, and Regally Ready is quicker than Southern Dude. I am not sold on a horse running in restricted races at FG and races at Haw. That said, I dont have a great alternative in the race.

Originally Posted by tiggerv

Don't you almost have to send from the rail? I like him too but I assume he will get bet down.

Originally Posted by knickslions2

I hope I dont jinx you but I love this horse in this race. Best of luck today Nick. Off to pocono downs in about an hour

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Agree 100% and surprised more people don't feel the same. . . When you watch his two U.S. starts, he was trying desperately to get to the front, but just had too much other speed trying to do the same. I can't imagine Julien guns that hard to deny him, and it might not matter because his horse just doesn't seem as fast. I know Berlino Di Tiger's two U.S. starts look pretty terrible on paper, but I think he's going to run a lot differently with an easier trip. Also--look at his Brazilian races--all came at 5f and on soft or heavy ground.

Since there seems to be a lot of confusion about this group, Maker/Rosario is probably the right direction. The more I look at it, the more likely it seems you get one of the late runners up, especially since we're all grappling with who the speed of the speed will be.. G/L.. Just be glad this isn't in the P5.

[Kasept]

CD SCR/CHG'S

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Since there seems to be a lot of confusion about this group, Maker/Rosario is probably the right direction. The more I look at it, the more likely it seems you get one of the late runners up, especially since we're all grappling with who the speed of the speed will be.. G/L.. Just be glad this isn't in the P5.

I think you are right about this. This is the type of race where it looks like there is not much speed on paper so everyone guns and the pace collapses. Think I am going to play it that way now.

[pointman]

7/2 currently on Southern Dude. As I thought, there is no way that horse goes off near 10-1.

[luv2gambl]

Steve,

Thanks again for all your efforts. Listening to your show led me straight to the Derby exacta.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by luv2gambl

Steve,

Thanks again for all your efforts. Listening to your show led me straight to the Derby exacta.

L2G,

My pleasure! Glad to hear you and many others scored. Very proud that between Mike Welsch, Gary Young, James Scully and Sid Fernando, ATR listeners were well cognizant of Golden Soul. Scully gave out the $28k super on the air Friday. Welsch and Young the $3,500 triple.

[Kasept]

Into Ohio already after a kooky Derby Day.. Hope everyone had a great weekend!

[ADJMK]

Originally Posted by Kasept

L2G,

My pleasure! Glad to hear you and many others scored. Very proud that between Mike Welsch, Gary Young, James Scully and Sid Fernando, ATR listeners were well cognizant of Golden Soul. Scully gave out the $28k super on the air Friday. Welsch and Young the $3,500 triple.

Yes they did and John White and Tony,Rich and numerous others all picked Orb and yet he still pays $12.80. Incredible must have been the uncertainty of the slop that drove the price up.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by ADJMK

Yes they did and John White and Tony, Rich and numerous others all picked Orb and yet he still pays $12.80. Incredible must have been the uncertainty of the slop that drove the price up.

And add Nick Tammaro to the list of invaluable pushes with Princess of Sylmar for Friday and Golden Soul for Saturday in his segment with Mike Beer!

May have been some general indecision regarding surface that prevented Orb from going off at more appropriate price, but that heavy Borel money for Revolutionary seemed to level out the number most.