Week/Weekend Stakes Beyers

[cmorioles]

I wonder what time they based that 105 on for Game on Dude. Was it the printed, fictional one or the real one?

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I wonder what time they based that 105 on for Game on Dude. Was it the printed, fictional one or the real one?

Erich Zimny from CT wrote me about the fig too. Said something about an outrider tripping the beam and he wondered if Beyer Associates might have hand-timed the race to make the number? I suggested he get a hold of Dick Jerardi who I guessed does the figs for BA. What were your thoughts?

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Erich Zimny from CT wrote me about the fig too. Said something about an outrider tripping the beam and he wondered if Beyer Associates might have hand-timed the race to make the number? I suggested he get a hold of Dick Jerardi who I guessed does the figs for BA. What were your thoughts?

My thoughts are if you use the "official" time, it has to be broken out. If you use the real time, it falls in line with the other route pretty closely. I don't use the Beyer scale any longer, but given the proximity of the other two horses and the fact Baffert horses are running like crap, it sounds about right to me.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

My thoughts are if you use the "official" time, it has to be broken out. If you use the real time, it falls in line with the other route pretty closely. I don't use the Beyer scale any longer, but given the proximity of the other two horses and the fact Baffert horses are running like crap, it sounds about right to me.

I imagine it was projected, and it does make sense for the others. but I don't know. I can find out.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Erich Zimny from CT wrote me about the fig too. Said something about an outrider tripping the beam

That type of timing error is avoided if the timer starts at the break of the gate.

It's not real common ... but outriders and starters at some tracks can be oblivious to run-up ... and they accidentally put themselves in the path of the beam and trigger the timer before the first horse gets there to trigger it.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

That type of timing error is avoided if the timer starts at the break of the gate. It's not real common ... but outriders and starters at some tracks can be oblivious to run-up ... and they accidentally put themselves in the path of the beam and trigger the timer before the first horse gets there to trigger it.

which is how it should be.

[Kasept]

KEE Ben Ali S (G3): Successful Dan 98 (Successful Appeal) C. LoPresti /J. Leparoux

WO Woodstock SP: Dan the Tin Man 78 (Songandaprayer) R. Griffith/P. Husbands

SA San Juan Capistrano H (G2): Interaction-ARG -- (Easing Along) R. McAnally/J. Talamo
SA La Puente S: Procurement -- (Milwaukee Brew) T. Proctor/G. Gomez

AQU Road Princess S: Kauai Katie 85 (Malibu Moon) T. Pletcher/J. Castellano

[Danzig]

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[Calzone Lord]

Even though the picture doesn't suggest it, the outrider on the outside fence was in the path of the starting beam:




If people ever wondered why it seems so hard for horses to pass on the inside through the stretch even when they have a huge hole ... it's because the camera angle.

If you have two closers appearing to move together in the stretch, one on the rail, and one in the 6th path.

The closer in the 6 path is CLEARLY in front and they most certainly aren't on even terms even though they appear it.

Some horses will get intimidated when they try to go inside through tight quarters... but mostly, it's a camera angle and a self fulfilling prophecy because jockeys always try to get outside for a clear wide run when they're confident and full of run. Dominguez and Borel were always the two biggest exceptions to the rule, but Dominguez quickly got away from that when he came to New York a few years ago.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Erich Zimny from CT wrote me about the fig too. Said something about an outrider tripping the beam and he wondered if Beyer Associates might have hand-timed the race to make the number? I suggested he get a hold of Dick Jerardi who I guessed does the figs for BA. What were your thoughts?

Most pathetic name drop evah.