The Official Your Top 5 Thread

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

Current consensus 5-4-3-2-1 top to bottom. Vyjack asking for your support

Orb-42
Normandy Invasion-24
Goldenencents-23
Govenor Charlie-20
Revolutionary-16
Itsmyluckyday-15
Java's War-12
Verrazano-10
Lines of Battle-9
Overanalyze-7
Oxbow-7
Will Take Charge-7
Falling Sky-4
Palice Malice-4
Super Ninety Nine-3
Black Onyx-2
Frac Daddy-2
Tiz a Minister-2
MyLute-1

It was a draw between Oxbow and Will Take Charge for me and a wet track would change my choice between the two and I'll really be reading what is said about them in the next few weeks leading up to the Derby. Few of these horses really seem like they are "bred for the distance." I would love to hear what someone like Andy thinks about the repeated bad trips for Oxbow. Normandy is a more "solid" selection of the pair, but the overflowing love has turned me off.

Itsmyluckyday is a leave in here because his best races are some of the best of the group and he'll likely be overlooked.

Ok Dougie. Show me yours.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Ok Dougie. Show me yours.

I haven't had time to take a more complete look at the projected field until this morning.

1.) Goldencents
2.) Normandy Invasion
3.) Revolutionary
4.) Verrazano
5.) Orb

A LOT of work still pending to be done after the race is drawn.

I'm especially interested in noting how horses who raced on the main track Santa Anita Derby day comeback and perform. I think the figure is solid that day, but I want to be sure the track wasn't speed biased. So, study will be done on how speeds and one-dimensional closers who raced that day performed next out.

Obviously, a more thorough review of all of the preps is needed for me. I don't see anything clear-cut ... and nothing ever is with very lightly raced 3-year-olds stretching out.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I haven't had time to take a more complete look at the projected field until this morning.

1.) Goldencents
2.) Normandy Invasion
3.) Revolutionary
4.) Verrazano
5.) Orb

A LOT of work still pending to be done after the race is drawn.

I'm especially interested in noting how horses who raced on the main track Santa Anita Derby day comeback and perform. I think the figure is solid that day, but I want to be sure the track wasn't speed biased. So, study will be done on how speeds and one-dimensional closers who raced that day performed next out.

Obviously, a more thorough review of all of the preps is needed for me. I don't see anything clear-cut ... and nothing ever is with very lightly raced 3-year-olds stretching out.

Thoughts on Mylute and Overanalyze?

[FATPIANO]

• Goldencents
• itsmyluckyday
• Mylute
• Java's War
• Orb

[dylbert]

Originally Posted by FATPIANO

• Goldencents
• itsmyluckyday
• Mylute
• Java's War
• Orb

You do know that it is sacrilegious to have three Delta Jackpot runners as top choices? Plus, Java's War won Sunday Silence at Louisiana Downs. I have 4 of your 5. I tossed Itsmyluckyday in favor of Louisiana Derby champion, Revolutionary.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Thoughts on Mylute and Overanalyze?

None of the other closers in this race can move with Mylute, he has a Street Sense like far turn move, to say he hasn't been able to sustain it has been an understatement.

I bet him in the Louisiana Derby last time because I loved the blinkers coming off and he had strong efforts two and three back. He got a patient ride, looked like a certain winner, and even without the blinkers, he hung terribly again in deep stretch and it cost him the win.

If this was Europe and they had in-race exchange wagering, I'd look to take a position betting against him at the top of the stretch because he will look serious turning for home. He could run a Wheelaway type race.

Overanalyze is one of the few Pletchers I expect to improve a lot as the year goes on.

All throughout history, when horses run big races going 9 furlongs as 2-year-olds and are subsequently laid up... they always struggle to come back to form initially.

In the old days, horses like Overanalyze and Normandy Invasion would have been brought back in 6 furlong races and trained harder. Overanalyze and Normandy Invasion are Travers horses IMO. I expect steady improvement from both through the summer.

[Rileyoriley]

Revolutionary
Oxbow
Orb
Frac Daddy
Mylute

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

It was a draw between Oxbow and Will Take Charge for me and a wet track would change my choice between the two and I'll really be reading what is said about them in the next few weeks leading up to the Derby. Few of these horses really seem like they are "bred for the distance." I would love to hear what someone like Andy thinks about the repeated bad trips for Oxbow. Normandy is a more "solid" selection of the pair, but the overflowing love has turned me off.

Itsmyluckyday is a leave in here because his best races are some of the best of the group and he'll likely be overlooked.

Ok Dougie. Show me yours.

Taking out Will Take Charge for Overanalyze

[Dunbar]

Who's going to run with Goldencents for the first 1/2 mile? I think he'll be loping along 3+ lengths out in front, unless he can't get footing on the wet track.

1. Goldencents
2. Itsmyluckyday
3. Orb
4. Verrazano
5. Java's War



--Dunbar

[trifecta124]

1. Verrazano
2. Revolutionary
3. Normandy Invasion
4. Java's War
5. Orb