Lets put a group together and bid....

Originally Posted by Exceller

Why charge more than $2-3 when you are going to rip them off at the window and on the scales. NYRA needed a detention barn because drugs were so out of control. No horseman or gamblers have ever been cheated? Read the NYRA report I attached. It is basically run by organized crime.

See what I mean? NYRA is not run by organized crime. The indivuals like Charlie Heyward, Bill Nader, Steve Duncker, and the recently deceased Peter Karches are/were honorable men with high degress of intelligence and integrity. Believe any propaganda you want. Whatever. What time is the book burning today?

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by oracle80

See what I mean? NYRA is not run by organized crime. The indivuals like Charlie Heyward, Bill Nader, Steve Duncker, and the recently deceased Peter Karches are/were honorable men with high degress of intelligence and integrity. Believe any propaganda you want. Whatever. What time is the book burning today?

I guess the attorney general just made up stuff. NYRA is the money laundering capital of america. Nice to know drug dealers and thieves have such good friends in NYRA.

[Suffolk Shippers]

Im in. I will throw in a few G's, thats about all I have

The NYRA is about as corrupt as you can get. The reason they want to be a "not for profit organization" is because they wont have to answer to anyone. Horse Racing is a business and it shouldnt be run by a group that is not for profit. Plus as a not for profit they do not have to pay taxes. No way should the NYRA be not for profit. That is a JOKE.

Stronach has all the money in the world to buy the New York Tracks. His MEC isnt doing all that well because they keep taking one time charges that hurt their bottom line. Just read the MEC end of year report from 2005 and it explains all that.

Churchill only charges $2 to get in the doors with the exception of Derby and Oaks day. You can get in on Derby day for $40. Travers is costs $25 to get it. So only $15 more for the biggest horse race in the world. That is not a bad deal at all.

Churchill also doesnt need a detention barn because of their new drug policy. So a detention barn is pointless in Kentucky.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

The NYRA is about as corrupt as you can get. The reason they want to be a "not for profit organization" is because they wont have to answer to anyone. Horse Racing is a business and it shouldnt be run by a group that is not for profit. Plus as a not for profit they do not have to pay taxes. No way should the NYRA be not for profit. That is a JOKE.

Stronach has all the money in the world to buy the New York Tracks. His MEC isnt doing all that well because they keep taking one time charges that hurt their bottom line. Just read the MEC end of year report from 2005 and it explains all that.

Churchill only charges $2 to get in the doors with the exception of Derby and Oaks day. You can get in on Derby day for $40. Travers is costs $25 to get it. So only $15 more for the biggest horse race in the world. That is not a bad deal at all.

Churchill also doesnt need a detention barn because of their new drug policy. So a detention barn is pointless in Kentucky.

NYRA is " not for profit " as per the statute set by the State.

Try to learn at least one fact.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

NYRA is " not for profit " as per the statute set by the State.

Try to learn at least one fact.

Sure. The organized crime groups paid off the politicians. What is the purpose of a non-profit group? If it is to lose money than NYRA deserves its non profit status.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

NYRA is " not for profit " as per the statute set by the State.

Try to learn at least one fact.

Come on Black, you are smarter than that. The NYRA lobbied to have that not profit statute in place in order for them to run the tracks. It is all political. But whoever runs the tracks should not be not for profit.

Dont forget the 10 dollar cokes and hot dogs on derby and oaks day, as well as the admission on those days.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Dont forget the 10 dollar cokes and hot dogs on derby and oaks day, as well as the admission on those days.

The KY Derby is in the category with the Superbowl, World Series, NBA Championship. People pay for the best of the best. The Travers is like AA baseball. The only big race NYRA has all year depends on if the KY Derby winner shows up going for a triple crown. Lets see, 150,000 people in KY or 60,000 people in NY (where the population is 8 million). NYRA is a crooked non-profit. I bet you are a Republican who goes around saying how business should run everything, except when there is an opportunity for corrupt non-profits.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Dont forget the 10 dollar cokes and hot dogs on derby and oaks day, as well as the admission on those days.

The concessions at churchill are contracted out by a thrid party vendor. Churchill has nothing to do with that. But again, it is Derby.

[blackthroatedwind]

It is far from clear that Churchill is an interested party.

Understand, unless the statute is changed to a " for-profit " entity there will be no bidders.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

The concessions at churchill are contracted out by a thrid party vendor. Churchill has nothing to do with that. But again, it is Derby.

E/B,

You're out of your element here 'bounce. Levy Restaurants is the CDI foodservice operator. Larry Levy was brought in when Dick Duchesois became an integral part of the "CDI family"... Levy runs EVERY SINGLE ELEMENT of the foodservice operation at CD, and brings in several concessionaires like my Carolina Barbecue on the big days to supplement the existing F&B options. CDI has plenty to do with the decisions involving the foodservice. THey have something to do with absolutely everything that goes on around 4th and Central. They are exceedingly corporate.

They also have no shot getting involved in NY. No single entity is going to "win" the NY bid. And the existing NY entity WILL be heavily involved in the final re-design of NYRA...

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

The NYRA is about as corrupt as you can get. The reason they want to be a "not for profit organization" is because they wont have to answer to anyone. Horse Racing is a business and it shouldnt be run by a group that is not for profit. Plus as a not for profit they do not have to pay taxes. No way should the NYRA be not for profit. That is a JOKE.

Stronach has all the money in the world to buy the New York Tracks. His MEC isnt doing all that well because they keep taking one time charges that hurt their bottom line. Just read the MEC end of year report from 2005 and it explains all that.

Churchill only charges $2 to get in the doors with the exception of Derby and Oaks day. You can get in on Derby day for $40. Travers is costs $25 to get it. So only $15 more for the biggest horse race in the world. That is not a bad deal at all.

Churchill also doesnt need a detention barn because of their new drug policy. So a detention barn is pointless in Kentucky.

AMEN. Non-profit=Scam. Let's stop putting the Travers in the same category at the derby too. The derby is so far superior to the travers it isn't even funny.

Originally Posted by Exceller

AMEN. Non-profit=Scam. Let's stop putting the Travers in the same category at the derby too. The derby is so far superior to the travers it isn't even funny.

Well funny you should mention that. You can see the travers in the clubhouse for 5 bucks. Derby will run you are least 200 to get upstaairs and Im being generous. LOL!!! Whos scamming who here? Are you blind?

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Well funny you should mention that. You can see the travers in the clubhouse for 5 bucks. Derby will run you are least 200 to get upstaairs and Im being generous. LOL!!! Whos scamming who here? Are you blind?

The Travers is nothing special. Trainers often opt to go to the Haskell. It so rarely includes the west coast it isn't even funny. The KY Derby is world known and televised everywhere. What are we watching the Travers on ESPN2 this year. Get real.

Originally Posted by Exceller

The Travers is nothing special. Trainers often opt to go to the Haskell. It so rarely includes the west coast it isn't even funny. The KY Derby is world known and televised everywhere. What are we watching the Travers on ESPN2 this year. Get real.

Shame you are watching cheap claimers and nothings the other days huh? What a bummer, LOL!!!

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Shame you are watching cheap claimers and nothings the other days huh? What a bummer, LOL!!!

I am watching whatever I want because I own a dish.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Well funny you should mention that. You can see the travers in the clubhouse for 5 bucks. Derby will run you are least 200 to get upstaairs and Im being generous. LOL!!! Whos scamming who here? Are you blind?

You cant compare the Travers to the Derby--lol. That is ridiculous. Travers they get about 40 thousand people there. Derby day they have 150 thousand.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

You cant compare the Travers to the Derby--lol. That is ridiculous. Travers they get about 40 thousand people there. Derby day they have 150 thousand.

Look at the tv ratings too. Millions watch the derby, a couple hundred thousand the Travers.