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Old 04-14-2013, 06:56 PM
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Actually, just a bit ago, Terranova let Darren Rogers know they are pulling West Hills Giant from Derby consideration! And there are more 'official declarations' including Uncaptured, Merit Man, & Departing and Den's Legacy flew back to California instead of Louisville as planned and appear withdrawn as well..

Super Ninety Nine however is under condideration... Revised listing below..
If you were Baffert, wouldn't you rather run Code West (who would be next on the list) than Super 99?

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Old 04-14-2013, 07:12 PM
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If you were Baffert, wouldn't you rather run Code West (who would be next on the list) than Super 99?

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Probably but they have different owners, so he may not be making the decision. Sadly, there will probaby be at least one defection because of injury, so it won't matter.
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Old 04-14-2013, 07:23 PM
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I say whoever is training the best of the 3 for Baffert, he will send.
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Old 04-14-2013, 07:30 PM
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I say whoever is training the best of the 3 for Baffert, he will send.
That's OK but right now -- with plenty of time for others to get sick/hurt -- he can only have Super Ninety Nine or Code West by not running Super Ninety Nine. Power Broker will need help..

And don't forget that there will be an opportunity for a couple of runners to invade the list out of the Lex and Derby Trial..
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That's true and he might not have a choice other then S99. Are they actually considering Power Broker? The West's try to rush everything like Power Broker and Treasury!
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Did you read the Press release at the Paulick report where it says "Then there will be one." Stating that Baffert is down to Govenor Charlie? But you keep reading and it says Baffert will determine who is training best between the other 3? Makes no sense, Is he considering the other 3 or not?
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Did you read the Press release at the Paulick report where it says "Then there will be one." Stating that Baffert is down to Govenor Charlie? But you keep reading and it says Baffert will determine who is training best between the other 3? Makes no sense, Is he considering the other 3 or not?
Use Darren Rogers at Churchill as the sole guide for the arbiter of Derby/Oaks hopefuls. He will always have the most relevent status information as connections have to keep CD informed as to intentions due to stall requirements, etc. If horses are still on his list as possible, then they aren't out of consideration.
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If you were Baffert, wouldn't you rather run Code West (who would be next on the list) than Super 99?

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Absolutely, especially since things have gone sideways -- and worse -- for Gary & Mary West.
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5/4: KENTUCKY DERBY -- JOCK ASSIGNMENTS

1. Orb (Shug McGaughey/Joel Rosario)
2. Verrazano (Todd Pletcher/John Velazquez)
3. Goldencents ( Doug O’Neill/Kevin Krigger)
4. Java’s War (Ken McPeek/Julian Leparoux)
5. Overanalyze (Todd Pletcher/Rafael Bejarano)
6. Revolutionary (Todd Pletcher/Calvin Borel)
7. Lines of Battle (Aidan O’Brien/Ryan Moore)
8. Vyjack (Rudy Rodriguez/Garrett Gomez)
9. Will Take Charge (D. Wayne Lukas/Jon Court)
10. Itsmyluckyday (Eddie Plesa Jr./Elvis Trujillo)
11. Govenor Charlie (Bob Baffert/Martin Garcia)
12. Black Onyx (Kelly Breen/Joe Bravo)
13. Palace Malice (Todd Pletcher/Mike Smith)
14. Normandy Invasion (Chad Brown/Javier Castellano)
15. Frac Daddy (Ken McPeek/TBA -- V. Lebron in AR Derby)
16. Mylute (Tom Amoss/Rosie Napravnik)
17. Oxbow (D. Wayne Lukas/Gary Stevens)
18. Falling Sky (John Terranova/Jose Espinoza) **
19. Charming Kitten (Todd Pletcher/Edgar Prado)
20. Tiz a Minister (Paul Aguirre/Joe Talamo)
21. Golden Soul (Dallas Stewart/BJ Hernandez)
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I'd be surprised if Charming Kitten runs.
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I'd be surprised if Charming Kitten runs.
Why? I don't think Ramsey will pass it up even if he knows the horse is hopeless.
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Why? I don't think Ramsey will pass it up even if he knows the horse is hopeless.
A son of Kitten's Joy who has never started on dirt before ... you'd think Pletcher would be able to talk him out of it...especially with so many rich spots for 3yo's routing on turf and poly later on in the year.
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Why? I don't think Ramsey will pass it up even if he knows the horse is hopeless.
it wouldn't be the only hopeless case to be entered.
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horseracingnation put together a nice side by side comparison.

http://www.horseracingnation.com/con...takes_earnings

under the new system, it looks like they traded out den's legacy, dynamic sky, he's had enough and power broker for falling sky, frac daddy, normandy invasion, and palace malice. all pending the lexington and derby trial, of course.

hard to argue that isn't an improvement.
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Napravnik picks up My Lute: http://blogs.courier-journal.com/rac...entucky-derby/
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