John Shirreffs moving to New York

[Vegaskid]

I really like John Shirreffs as a top trainer who does good by his horses. Would be a nice change for new york to see a clean trainer examples. Too many Dutrows, Rudys, Rices, whom love to juice away!!

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Vegaskid

I really like John Shirreffs as a top trainer who does good by his horses. Would be a nice change for new york to see a clean trainer examples. Too many Dutrows, Rudys, Rices, whom love to juice away!!

Yeah because when I think of clean trainers, California is the first place I think of.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Yeah because when I think of clean trainers, California is the first place I think of.

Only the finest Hay, Oats and Water.

[Dahoss]

I just threw my lunch up

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Vegaskid

I really like John Shirreffs as a top trainer who does good by his horses. Would be a nice change for new york to see a clean trainer examples. Too many Dutrows, Rudys, Rices, whom love to juice away!!

Did you just call Linda Rice a juicer?

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Did you just call Linda Rice a juicer?

Joey, Anyone that could be winning at a 21% clip with Cornelio being the first call has to be using something.

[OldDog]

I'd bet that NYRA is very happy to hear that he's coming.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by OldDog

I'd bet that NYRA is very happy to hear that he's coming.

Why? he will take 30 stalls and those 30 horses will cumulatively race 30 times.WHOOPIE

[Vegaskid]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Why? he will take 30 stalls and those 30 horses will cumulatively race 30 times.WHOOPIE

Ya they only want the juicers whom run the pigs into the ground!!

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Vegaskid

Ya they only want the juicers whom run the pigs into the ground!!

Like Bill Mott, Christophe Clement, Graham Motion, etc etc etc.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Vegaskid

Ya they only want the juicers whom run the pigs into the ground!!

What evidence is there that illegal drugs are used more at NYRA tracks then any other racetrack or circuit?

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Why? he will take 30 stalls and those 30 horses will cumulatively race 30 times.WHOOPIE

You're right. A prestigious, reputable trainer with a few dozen quality horses and noteworthy owners . . . Who needs that?

So is this really Hollywood Parks last year?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by OldDog

You're right. A prestigious, reputable trainer with a few dozen quality horses and noteworthy owners . . . Who needs that?

You're missing his point, which is that Shirreffs doesn't run his horses much.

I'm sure NYRA is happy to have a very good trainer coming to town, especially a trainer with his reputation. But I also think they are hopeful that he runs some of the few dozen horses he has more than he normally does. Horses in stalls that don't run is one of racings biggest problems.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by OldDog

You're right. A prestigious, reputable trainer with a few dozen quality horses and noteworthy owners . . . Who needs that?

John Sherriffs is obviously a world class trainer and by all accounts a terrific man. I like watching horses race, what I like more is betting on races that have great horses in them. There are plenty of trainers equally as qualified as Sherriffs that simply run their stock with much greater frequency then he does.

If you told me Bob Baffert was coming with 50 I would be a lot more excited.