Miami Heat

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

and Flyers Pens tonight.



The Heat now have the second most impressive active streak in the NBA.

Your insane if you actually believe this. One team is OK at best. With a ceiling of second round exit. The other team is going to go down as one of the all time great teams ever. With one of the all time great players ever. And a top 3 SG ever.
Come on man!

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Your insane if you actually believe this. One team is OK at best. With a ceiling of second round exit. The other team is going to go down as one of the all time great teams ever. With one of the all time great players ever. And a top 3 SG ever.
Come on man!

An OK team of nobodies that keeps on winning (despite injuries) is more impressive than the team everyone expects to win. How often do the Heat go in as a dog?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

An OK team of nobodies that keeps on winning (despite injuries) is more impressive than the team everyone expects to win. How often do the Heat go in as a dog?

Without taking anything away from the Heat's streak, which has been remarkable, (and taking into account I just briefly looked) it looks like they have been favored in 67 of 70 games this year.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

An OK team of nobodies that keeps on winning (despite injuries) is more impressive than the team everyone expects to win. How often do the Heat go in as a dog?

I wouldn't exactly call Denver an OK team of nobodies. They aren't quite a title contending team yet but noone in the West wants to play them in the playoffs

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I wouldn't exactly call Denver an OK team of nobodies. They aren't quite a title contending team yet but noone in the West wants to play them in the playoffs

Not now but early this season that is pretty much what everyone thought, along with Igoudala being a bust.

Playing them in the playoffs means coming here, nobody wants to play here in any sport except hockey and baseball this season of course.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Not now but early this season that is pretty much what everyone thought, along with Igoudala being a bust.

Playing them in the playoffs means coming here, nobody wants to play here in any sport except hockey and baseball this season of course.

Who thought that? Skip Bayless?

They had a tough schedule early having to play 22 of 32 games on the road.
No one wants to play them in the playoffs not only because playing in Denver is tough but because they are young, deep and athletic, rebound like crazy and George Karl is a very good coach. They are 2nd in the league in steals, 1st in offensive rebounding, 2nd total rebounding, 3rd in assists, 3rd in blocked shots, 2nd in forcing turnovers, 1st in points and 3rd in points per game.

Tough to argue with those numbers.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Who thought that? Skip Bayless?

They had a tough schedule early having to play 22 of 32 games on the road.
No one wants to play them in the playoffs not only because playing in Denver is tough but because they are young, deep and athletic, rebound like crazy and George Karl is a very good coach. They are 2nd in the league in steals, 1st in offensive rebounding, 2nd total rebounding, 3rd in assists, 3rd in blocked shots, 2nd in forcing turnovers, 1st in points and 3rd in points per game.

Tough to argue with those numbers.

touche on the schedule, I had forgotten about that. I cannot argue with the numbers or Karl but the expectations for this team were not anywhere near as high as they have played, at least not in this city.

[RockHardTen1985]

Chuck I like picking your brain. If you took the original NBA top 50 and did it over right now. Who gets kicked off, and who from this era makes it?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Chuck I like picking your brain. If you took the original NBA top 50 and did it over right now. Who gets kicked off, and who from this era makes it?

Who knows? It is hard to compare era's. Do you rate a guy versus how he was against his time period or try to compare overall? I can't really rate the guys who played before the mid 70's very well because not only didn't I see them there isn't much TV footage from that time period.

I know the Marvin Gaye All-Star game National Anthem is the unquestioned number 1 version.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Chuck I like picking your brain. If you took the original NBA top 50 and did it over right now. Who gets kicked off, and who from this era makes it?

I dont know if you read books but there is a great book about the ABA called Loose Balls by Terry Pluto.

http://www.amazon.com/Loose-Balls-Am...ds=loose+balls

Some of the stories told are priceless.

[herkhorse]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Your insane if you actually believe this. One team is OK at best. With a ceiling of second round exit. The other team is going to go down as one of the all time great teams ever. With one of the all time great players ever. And a top 3 SG ever.
Come on man!

http://mlkshk.com/r/2KNX

[RockHardTen1985]

Herk come on..... John Wall!

[Clip-Clop]

Well that was fun while it lasted. Now another loss at SA is next. Hope they can turn it back on for the playoffs since this conference is weak.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Well that was fun while it lasted. Now another loss at SA is next. Hope they can turn it back on for the playoffs since this conference is weak.

New Orleans played out of their minds. Sometimes in the NBA the other team shoots 14-25 on 3's and you just get too far behind which makes the Heat streak so unbelievable.
The talk that the NBA is weaker now than in the early 70's is bizarre. Are there more bad teams? Sure but mostly because there are more teams. There are international players, no ABA competing for players and the sophistication of defenses and level of athleticism is not close. Not to mention the media spotlight is far more intense even if the travel is easier. There were some bad NBA teams that year too.

The year of the Lakers streak was Julius Ervings rookie season in the ABA. He averaged 27 ppg and 15 rebounds and that was only good enough for a 2nd team all ABA team selection.

NBA all stars Rick Barry, Artis Gilmore, Dan Issel, Zelmo Beaty, Charlie Scott, George McGinnis, Joe Caldwell, Hall of famer Mel Daniels, multiple ABA all stars Ralph Simpson, Ron Boone, Louis Dampier and Roger Brown arguably all in the top 40 players at that time, all didnt play in the NBA that year.

Winning 33 in a row in any pro sport in any era is an unbelievable accomplishment.





The West is weak? Compared to what? The ACC?

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

New Orleans played out of their minds. Sometimes in the NBA the other team shoots 14-25 on 3's and you just get too far behind which makes the Heat streak so unbelievable.
The talk that the NBA is weaker now than in the early 70's is bizarre. Are there more bad teams? Sure but mostly because there are more teams. There are international players, no ABA competing for players and the sophistication of defenses and level of athleticism is not close. Not to mention the media spotlight is far more intense even if the travel is easier. There were some bad NBA teams that year too.

The year of the Lakers streak was Julius Ervings rookie season in the ABA. He averaged 27 ppg and 15 rebounds and that was only good enough for a 2nd team all ABA team selection.

NBA all stars Rick Barry, Artis Gilmore, Dan Issel, Zelmo Beaty, Charlie Scott, George McGinnis, Joe Caldwell, Hall of famer Mel Daniels, multiple ABA all stars Ralph Simpson, Ron Boone, Louis Dampier and Roger Brown arguably all in the top 40 players at that time, all didnt play in the NBA that year.

Winning 33 in a row in any pro sport in any era is an unbelievable accomplishment.





The West is weak? Compared to what? The ACC?

That was tongue in cheek since the Heat are "unbeatable"

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Your insane if you actually believe this. One team is OK at best. With a ceiling of second round exit. The other team is going to go down as one of the all time great teams ever. With one of the all time great players ever. And a top 3 SG ever.
Come on man!

Top 3
Jordan
Kobe
Jerry West

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Top 3
Jordan
Kobe
Jerry West

Fair enough. So he's 4th ever right now. He will ride Lebron to at least 2 more titles. When Wades done you can argue one of the greatest of all time.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Fair enough. So he's 4th ever right now. He will ride Lebron to at least 2 more titles. When Wades done you can argue one of the greatest of all time.

Being 4th best SG in basketball history would generally be considered one of the best of all time.

[RockHardTen1985]

Where would you rank Paul Pierce?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Where would you rank Paul Pierce?

He is not a SG